[Pro] animated graphics

Good Evening ,

I am working on my own site and would like to do the following - unsure if I should do a flash or random rollover or…???

My main graphic and logo is 4 puzzle pieces together.

what I would like to do is Have all 4 pieces apart then bring them (randomly separate or all 4 at the same time) into the final together look. I really just want this done at the beginning when someone comes to the site. / back to the home page

can anyone make any suggestions? please

Thank you!


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what I would like to do is Have all 4 pieces apart then bring them
(randomly separate or all 4 at the same time) into the final
together look.

There’s an action called Move Layer that can do precisely what you
want. Select your (layered) object, choose Item > Actions > Move
Layer, and set the parameters: speed, x/y start and end point
relative to current position, loop on/off.

I can’t tell whether that’s a standard action or one that I’ve added
at some point in the past. I think it is a normal bundled one, but
shout if you can’t see it in your list.

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Keith,

thank you! I knew there had to be something.

I can not find it in 5 pro. Also I checked actionsforge and could not
find it there either…
which would it do the all at once or the randomly? - or both?? just
curious

J:)

On Mar 16, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Keith Martin wrote:

what I would like to do is Have all 4 pieces apart then bring them
(randomly separate or all 4 at the same time) into the final
together look.

There’s an action called Move Layer that can do precisely what you
want. Select your (layered) object, choose Item > Actions > Move
Layer, and set the parameters: speed, x/y start and end point
relative to current position, loop on/off.

I can’t tell whether that’s a standard action or one that I’ve added
at some point in the past. I think it is a normal bundled one, but
shout if you can’t see it in your list.

k


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Hi

I think that it is part of Pro’s standard action suite.

Create a layered item and with it selected Item>Actions>Move Layer - about 5 or 6 down the list.

Have a play.

David


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ok that is a good basic beginning of what I want

now, how can I make 4 pieces of the puzzle (my logo) come together
into the final graphic that is on my site now.

(have the current logo of 4 puzzle pieces hidden till the 4 pieces
come together -

does that make sense?

thank you

J:)

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On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:00 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Hi

I think that it is part of Pro’s standard action suite.

Create a layered item and with it selected Item>Actions>Move Layer -
about 5 or 6 down the list.

Have a play.

David


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Have a look at this http://www.deltadzine.net/grdesign/

Is this the sort of thing that you are after. This example uses the Move Layer action.

You could also do it with an animated gif or Flash - in fact there are many ways but my example is done within FW - no external files or code.

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Dave you are amazing!

that is exactly what I want to do. Have the pieces go over the main
page and come together…

I am still learning all these neat “tricks” I do so appreciate your
patience.

how did you also get the pieces separated so perfectly??

Julie

ps I remember your comment about the page titles - haven’t gotten to
that point yet - but They will be done. LOL

On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:45 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Have a look at this http://www.deltadzine.net/grdesign/

Is this the sort of thing that you are after. This example uses the
Move Layer action.

You could also do it with an animated gif or Flash - in fact there
are many ways but my example is done within FW - no external files
or code.

David


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I just took your logo from your site and opened it in Photoshop, separated the different pieces into different layers and then saved each layer as single PSDs.

Imported each ‘piece’ into individual graphic boxes, apply the action and fiddle with the settings to get them to come together.

Now if you created your logo in illustrator - or similar - you will be able to save each piece as a separate file and get much better quality than I did.

If you want I will send you the FW page so that you can see its construction.

David


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Link on the page to the file http://www.deltadzine.net/grdesign/

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Thank you so much!!!

I am learning so much… once I learn one thing - I don’t forget (at
least I then have the instructions to refer to)

Julie
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Link on the page to the file http://www.deltadzine.net/grdesign/

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Can any one tell me what an equal to illustrator and photoshop might
be in the mac / apple world or are they the best for graphic editing?

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Link on the page to the file http://www.deltadzine.net/grdesign/

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There are alternatives but not equals in terms of features. If you
want something lightweight and inexpensive but still very good then try:

Drawing apps
Intaglio http://www.purgatorydesign.com/
Vector Designer http://www.tweakersoft.com/vectordesigner/
Lineform http://www.freeverse.com/apps/app/?id=6020
ZeusDraw http://www.chromaticbytes.com/zeusDrawTour.php

Image editors
Photoshop Elements http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopelmac/
Pixelmator http://www.pixelmator.com/
Graphic Converter <http://www.lemkesoft.com/xd/public/content/index.cGlkPTE5Mw.html

There are others but that’s a start.

Todd

On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Can any one tell me what an equal to illustrator and photoshop might
be in the mac / apple world or are they the best for graphic editing?


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I am assuming that you want to ‘break apart’ your logo.

In what graphic program was it created? If it was a vector then that would be ideal to get maximum quality.

Illustrator and Photoshop are industry leaders on both Mac and PC platforms but there are others such as Corel Draw that will do mostly the same job.

If you have it as a vector (ie illustrator etc.) then I could do it for you and give you back the 4 pieces as separate files.

David


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Illustrator and Photoshop both debuted on the Macintosh, and were Mac-
only for many years after that. So if you are accustomed to using them
on another platform, you should use them on your Mac, where they will
be at their best. :sunglasses:

If you don’t want to pay Adobe twice, then there are Intaglio (for
illustration) and Pixelmator for the raster stuff. Both are less than
$100 each.

Walter

On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Can any one tell me what an equal to illustrator and photoshop might
be in the mac / apple world or are they the best for graphic editing?

On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:14 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Link on the page to the file http://www.deltadzine.net/grdesign/

David


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David,

I really forget the program - maybe fireworks…

I have it mainly saved as a jpeg. I would love that - I also want to
learn this stuff too.

Julie

On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:15 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

I am assuming that you want to ‘break apart’ your logo.

In what graphic program was it created? If it was a vector then that
would be ideal to get maximum quality.

Illustrator and Photoshop are industry leaders on both Mac and PC
platforms but there are others such as Corel Draw that will do
mostly the same job.

If you have it as a vector (ie illustrator etc.) then I could do it
for you and give you back the 4 pieces as separate files.

David


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You really are a major help… thank you!!

I want to learn how to do the separations etc… but your offer is
great also!

thank you.

So for the best tools I am looking for to max my abilities are :

photoshop and illustrator

next intaglio

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Link on the page to the file http://www.deltadzine.net/grdesign/

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If you have Illustrator, then Intaglio is not needed. It’s a low-budget Illustrator-like application, but compared with the Adobe product, it’s more of a toy. That said, a lot of people love it and prefer it. But it’s not designed for the same sorts of things that Illustrator is.

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Thank you!

ok … I have it working - but I need to Put it in its place ( I
left the pieces together to show where) also - i did the exact
"placement / x /y that David put in his sample - but they are not
coming together exactly…

I don’t mean to be stupid - but learning the tweaking on these
detailed actions is confusing sometimes.

On Mar 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, waltd wrote:

If you have Illustrator, then Intaglio is not needed. It’s a low-
budget Illustrator-like application, but compared with the Adobe
product, it’s more of a toy. That said, a lot of people love it and
prefer it. But it’s not designed for the same sorts of things that
Illustrator is.

Walter


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Ok I feel stupid -

got it to work in place etc!

is there a simpler way of dragging the objects into different places
and experimenting each time?

On Mar 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, waltd wrote:

If you have Illustrator, then Intaglio is not needed. It’s a low-
budget Illustrator-like application, but compared with the Adobe
product, it’s more of a toy. That said, a lot of people love it and
prefer it. But it’s not designed for the same sorts of things that
Illustrator is.

Walter


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Mathematical calculations based on how far apart the pieces are from each other when finished also calculations of distances between start and end points. These figures then used to calculate the figures that go in the action dialogue boxes. Unless your graphics (and containers) are exactly the same as mine you wont be able to use exactly the same co-ordinates.

From your page I would say that you should be able to get your pieces looking better - without the rough edges.

Have you tried exporting the different parts of the puzzle out of Fireworks - I dont have the program any more but I think it does vectors and maybe even can export ai files?

FW can then import ai files and output them as png, millions of colours, to retain transparency.

David


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