[Pro] Box Model or Not for This?

I’d like to be able to have all my content move within the box and have the box expand a in this example:

In FW 5.5, does this still have to be done the Box Model way, or can it be done in an easier way using RPL?

Thanks.

Bob


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Hi Bob,

as far as I understood:

RPL: none overlapping divs will stay in its dimensions to each other by cmd-+/- by user in his browser-view.

Or short:

Ready built freeway-pages won’t fall apart, if visitor is changing his browser size-view(s) or have set them bigger/smaller by default (Ready built is strong written here).

BM will stay necessary whenever you need (or want) a flexible structure within your page-layout. Once proper set, it does for you the most consistent job (except maybe table-structures) when it comes to “grow” content - and I’m talking here about physical growing content by adding lines images etc.

So I don’t see any other chances yet (and futural) to build an inline boxmodel if you wan’t to work save and comfort with content without to proloung pagesize manually (or push a footer downwards by adding content).

And with no other “construction” I would create a page like this in your example, so Boxmodel for this!

Just another thing to clarify:

Inline content (boxmodel) is not evil created by FreewayPro (or Softpress or Dan or whatever), it’s a consequence of how a browser is displaying content and in what relations divs set to each other and a strong (but not loved) tool to react.

It is not personal written to (or against) you Bob, it is more to make clear that the Relative Page Layout action is not the “Inline Boxmodel-Creating Action”, but it helps you to keep all stuff consistent by working the more that brillliant “layer-based” Freeway workflow.

“Inline BoxModel” should be unchained from Freeway and its issues and more be related to “How is content displayed in a Browser and what can I do (against)”.

Cheers

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So, what exactly is the purpose of using RPL?

Is there a video on how to actually set it up? It seems on another thread, someone pretty much laid out the entire thing just as you would with the box model method anyway and then applied RPL.

I’m a little confused…

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Doubtful. What I miss is a proper declaration on what you want to achieve.

Have a look on this:

http://www.softpress.com/tour/new-in-freeway-55/

It declares all about RPL. The significant sentence is:

"What’s not so easy to control is what your audience does with this content … ", nothing more nothing less.

Look careful on the area he fills content in. If he would add some lines more, RPL would not prevent him from overflow textarea the box the text should fit (from the "construction side). If you want automatically grow the box with the content:

Inline Boxmodel.

That’s what I meant - no confusion at all.

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So, basically, you still have to make an inline box model with layers, but the RPL action helps it all stay together.


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So, basically, you still have to make an inline box model with
layers, but the RPL action helps it all stay together.

You can just draw boxes on the page without worrying about inserting
boxes within boxes, floats/clears etc. and FW will generate the code
as if you manually built the layout as an inline layout. Which of
course you didn’t.

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Both correct.

Just to clarify: Inline is not “layered”, but layers will be set in relations, that’s the news on that action.

Look:

You build your page by drawing some layers on your page. The browser “flattens” these “Layers” to one basic customer-view, 'cause browser can’t see layers. RPL sets your divs now into “realtion to each other” but only then, when they do not overlap without doing some more things (as Todd mentioned).

Did you ever built a “Boxmodel”? It’s div in div, not layered, not overlapped, just like a puzzle.

But once again:

Describe the goal to achieve and answer will be much more easier - and once again:

If you need Inline BoxModel for whatever reason*, RPL will not answer this.

*One reason could be cms like webyep where you need “growing content” to achieve a moved footer for example.

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