This one is really bugging me… I created a brand new site. I drop two form items (input boxes) and a submit button.
Then I go to Page > Form Setup…, choose method GET and put in my action URL. I add name to the extended tab.
When I load the page, the beginning tag is not there.
Now the strange part… I have a site I did a few months ago. If I do the same process, I can create a form within that site.
I thought it was my Freeway installation, so I removed Freeway, the library folder, and preference file. I installed no actions. I created a new site, and the same, I can’t create a usable form. All the elements are there, but the Form Setup… info which creates the tag is not there.
Just when I really need to make a form…
Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
As I said, I’ve made dozens of forms using the same method and no problems. Don’t understand what’s going on here.
I can only add a form in a floating CSS HTML box. If I try to create a box inline (clicking on the main page, and inserting HTML item, the form won’t work.
Select ‘POST’ from the ‘Method’ menu that is on the Form setup
window.
Enter a URL in the ‘Action’ area below the ‘Method’ menu that is on
the Form setup window.
Adany other bits like a form name and hidden fields if needed.
Close the ‘Form setup’ window.
Publish and then test the form.
I am using Snow and don’t have any problem with forms in Freeway.
HTH
On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Bryan Los wrote:
This one is really bugging me… I created a brand new site. I drop
two form items (input boxes) and a submit button.
Then I go to Page > Form Setup…, choose method GET and put in my
action URL. I add name to the extended tab.
When I load the page, the beginning tag is not there.
Now the strange part… I have a site I did a few months ago. If I
do the same process, I can create a form within that site.
I thought it was my Freeway installation, so I removed Freeway, the
library folder, and preference file. I installed no actions. I
created a new site, and the same, I can’t create a usable form. All
the elements are there, but the Form Setup… info which creates the
tag is not there.
Just when I really need to make a form…
Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
As I said, I’ve made dozens of forms using the same method and no
problems. Don’t understand what’s going on here.
Send me a copy of your Freeway file with the page that is causing the
problem and I will take a look if you like.
HTH
On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Bryan Los wrote:
I can only add a form in a floating CSS HTML box. If I try to create
a box inline (clicking on the main page, and inserting HTML item,
the form won’t work.
I can’t figure out how you added the form elements, they are
surrounded in a green dotted line! when I add form elements with CSS
on I get a solid green line and with your items I don’t even get all
the properties showing up in the inspector… anyway:
Use the Insert menu option or draw the items on the page using the
HTML icon and selecting the item you want to draw before your add it,
using both of the above processes the form tags are added as should be.
Just as a matter of interest, how did you add ‘you say drop’ the
Submit button to your form as I cannot seem to get it to draw with a
green dotted line?
On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Bryan Los wrote:
This one is really bugging me… I created a brand new site. I drop
two form items (input boxes) and a submit button.
Then I go to Page > Form Setup…, choose method GET and put in my
action URL. I add name to the extended tab.
When I load the page, the beginning tag is not there.
Now the strange part… I have a site I did a few months ago. If I
do the same process, I can create a form within that site.
I thought it was my Freeway installation, so I removed Freeway, the
library folder, and preference file. I installed no actions. I
created a new site, and the same, I can’t create a usable form. All
the elements are there, but the Form Setup… info which creates the
tag is not there.
Just when I really need to make a form…
Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
As I said, I’ve made dozens of forms using the same method and no
problems. Don’t understand what’s going on here.
Mike- Thanks for your help. The lines are dotted because these elements are being drawn in-line within a CSS box. If I use the method you showed, using floating form items, I can get the form to work, and the lines are solid.
But I have a form on another site that works when I use the form items inline. What I showed in my video, if I do the same on my other site, the form works fine.
But starting a new site, I can get the form to work inline.
OK, sorry yes… I see that now and that the inline creates the dotted
line.
If you don’t mind my asking: why are you trying to create the form
this way? in my mind using table for your form elements is generally a
better way construct then, it holds everything together, in saying
this I am not sure how you are wanting to use the form so maybe this
does not suite for some reason although I can’t think why.
I have never had cause to even consider a form using inline form
elements but see that this does not work with my Freeway either… you
could try contacting Freeway support and ask why this is the case as
there may be some legitimate reason why it cannot be done… or then
again maybe it is a bug!
HTH
On Sep 6, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Bryan Los wrote:
Mike- Thanks for your help. The lines are dotted because these
elements are being drawn in-line within a CSS box. If I use the
method you showed, using floating form items, I can get the form to
work, and the lines are solid.
But I have a form on another site that works when I use the form
items inline. What I showed in my video, if I do the same on my
other site, the form works fine.
But starting a new site, I can get the form to work inline.
Thinking I was going crazy, I checked the Freeway 5 complete user guide, and they explain that form items can be used “in-flow.” Which is how I did all my forms.
I did contact support with my question and a link to my video.
Here’s why I use the in-flow form versus the floating ones… I use the box model approach when it comes to designing the site, so I’ll create a form box with two columns, on the right, the input form elements, on the left, the text or image text describing the input field.
Below that, a box containing the image submit button.
This way, when the size of the page text is increased, my boxes all resize without any problems as I use undefined height values.
The strange thing is… my old site will let me do what the new site won’t. Everything I do in that video… I can do the same for my old site and it will work.
I have no idea why the older files work and the newly created files don’t. I’ve spent like 4 hours trying to figure it out already.
I don’t think it’s a Leopard / Snow Leopard thing. I can confirm that
inline form elements that are placed inline in the page itself do not
generate a surrounding form tag in regular old Leopard (and probably
Tiger, too).
Double-click the page so you see the text cursor flashing in the top-
left corner, use Insert / Text Field or similar, publish, and there’s
no form tag.
Draw an HTML box on the page (not inline within the page), double-
click into that box, insert the form element as an inline child of the
HTML box, and you get a form tag.
I have no doubt it’s being worked on by the good people of Oxford,
because it’s clearly not right.
Walter
On Sep 6, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Bryan Los wrote:
Chuck- Grouping works fine… until I place that group inline. For
some reason, all inline form functionality is broke for all new
sites I create.
As I mentioned, an older site I created with Leopard I can place
forms inline with no problems.
Walt- I have to take back what I said… it did work for me before… but I just checked the site (made a while back) and the CSS box the form was in… was in fact floating. It was so long ago I forgot that it was inline, but within a floating box.
My BIG mistake.
But, at least I know you can’t do it like I wanted, and glad to here you say Walt that they should fix this.
Okay, until they fix it, here’s a simple work-around. Draw a checkbox
above the page (offscreen). This will force a form tag to be generated
for the page. Checkboxes don’t submit if they aren’t checked (so make
sure that yours isn’t set to default checked), and since it’s off-
screen, nobody will see it or anything. Someone using Windows might
tab to it accidentally, but that’s about the beginning and end of any
potential problems here.
Walter
On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Bryan Los wrote:
But, at least I know you can’t do it like I wanted, and glad to here
you say Walt that they should fix this.