[Pro] cms image question - webyep - ckeditor

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Most manuals will only show you the basic functions of how a feature
works, and are not intended to be training manuals to show you every
possible use.

I’m sure if you ask a question on this forum one of the many WebYep
users will offer advice. Or Max the WebYep action author will chip in.

Regarding adding photos you are probably best experimenting with
WebYep to start with as it’s very easy get up and running.

Personally I would stear clear of giving a client rich text. It
usually end in tears as they add 40px bold bright green text all over
your beautifully considered design ~ because it needed impact.

David

On 31 Mar 2010, at 21:06, “seoras” email@hidden wrote:

The webyep ‘image’ insert might do in conjunction with lightbox to
show the full image but integration is ridiculously obscure with the
manual being very lax on how to do it. I’m not impressed with the
manual.

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Hi David,

Nothing on telly:)

Most manuals will only show you the basic functions of how a feature works, and are not intended to be training manuals to show you every possible use.

I spent 15 mins trying to figure out what a Loop was supposed to do, no thanks to the manual and I consider that pretty basic. Anyway.

I’m sure if you ask a question on this forum one of the many WebYep users will offer advice. Or Max the WebYep action author will chip in.

I’m hoping so.

Regarding adding photos you are probably best experimenting with WebYep to start with as it’s very easy get up and running.

Yip; got it up and running, very easy to do. Just this flaw, though I suppose you get what you pay for.

Personally I would stear clear of giving a client rich text. It usually end in tears as they add 40px bold bright green text all over your beautifully considered design ~ because it needed impact.

Agree but think in this instance its important for my client to have some control on images and size etc. Sadly webyep’s own interface doesn’t.

spent most of today working on this and fighting off the cold wind blowing throw the cracks in my hoose, so fit to shutdown.

regards,

s

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I’m not wanting to push WebYep as a killer CMS, but it is very versatile for its low cost, and worth exploring given a chance.

It’s worth mentioning that most CMS system are pretty constraining from the client editing point of view. They mainly deal in how content and text is added to columns on a page.

I spent 15 mins trying to figure out what a Loop was supposed to do, no thanks to the manual and I consider that pretty basic. Anyway.

The loop is a powerful feature. Consider most column content consists of: Heading, picture (small pic left, or right, or large column width) followed by text. (see next)

its important for my client to have some control on images and size etc. Sadly webyep’s own interface doesn’t.

WebYep’s interface might not have image sizing, but you certainly can give the user a choice of picture size for the user. What I’ve done to get round this issue is to give the clent up to three image sizes to draw upon.

By adding three different sized WebYep inline images (small, medium, and column width) for the client to choose from. When the client uploads a pic to one of these, the other two are ignored when published. Combine this with loops, and the client can build all sorts of combinations down a page column, by publishing some item and leaving other blank.

We’ve managed to build animated slideshows and shopping carts with WebYep. You can even let the user change Page title, keywords, and description with WebYep.

David

On 31 Mar 2010, at 21:49, seoras wrote:

Hi David,

Nothing on telly:)

Most manuals will only show you the basic functions of how a feature works, and are not intended to be training manuals to show you every possible use.

I spent 15 mins trying to figure out what a Loop was supposed to do, no thanks to the manual and I consider that pretty basic. Anyway.

I’m sure if you ask a question on this forum one of the many WebYep users will offer advice. Or Max the WebYep action author will chip in.

I’m hoping so.

Regarding adding photos you are probably best experimenting with WebYep to start with as it’s very easy get up and running.

Yip; got it up and running, very easy to do. Just this flaw, though I suppose you get what you pay for.

Personally I would stear clear of giving a client rich text. It usually end in tears as they add 40px bold bright green text all over your beautifully considered design ~ because it needed impact.

Agree but think in this instance its important for my client to have some control on images and size etc. Sadly webyep’s own interface doesn’t.

spent most of today working on this and fighting off the cold wind blowing throw the cracks in my hoose, so fit to shutdown.

regards,

s

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Thanks guys,

Thats an excellent and clever idea Tim, I’ll try it out. She might go for it.

And I like your idea David but the client still needs to be able to upload images of their choice easily.

I know there might be more powerful cms but as most of the sites I do are usually small and for sole traders, a less over the top and simple approach is the ideal, I think. That’s why I thought Pulse a good solution and it has an upload feature.
Agree, WebYep has lots of potential once you work how it can best be configured. My only stumbling block (apart from the manual) has been lack of means to upload images in a way which is nice and simple for my clients.

Dan, there is an upload feature for CKEditor, called CKFinder which runs at hefty $59 per license. It features on their demo but the upload feature, quietly obscure, is a separate plugin. TinyMCE also has a plugin and it costs €32 + vat
I can’t get the upload feature to work on the older FCKEditor.
Shall swing by your WebYep screencasts in a bit: http://www.danjasker.com/fwtuts/view/webyep-episode-one

Thanks again and hope thread useful to others.

s

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You can’t make it much easier than the way I suggest - the clients we
use webyep for tend to be non-web savvy. They love WebYeb because it’s
so easy and quick.

David

On 1 Apr 2010, at 19:12, “seoras” email@hidden wrote:

And I like your idea David but the client still needs to be able to
upload images of their choice easily

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You can’t make it much easier than the way I suggest - the clients we use webyep for tend to be non-web savvy. They love WebYeb because it’s so easy and quick.

Hi David,

Didn’t get a chance to look or think about this today, battling with another problem, thankfully solved.

I see what your getting at now, with giving various size options and the client uploads accordingly. Shall give it a trial and see how I get on.

Also wish to get the lightbox working but that’ll challenge my grey processor, fans will be going at full whack over the coming weekend; its the way to learn, apparently.

regards,

s

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True, you’d have to get CKFinder with it. However I did just re-read some emails here and Max says:

“…from the last conversation I had with Johannes he did hint that he was constructing an add-on so people could upload images within ck-editor”

This sounds like an option without having to have CKFinder, but who knows when this stuff gets released. Better stick to David’s suggestions.

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Hi all,

just want to slip in this thread, cause to my experience, CKEditor is not running with the latest webyep version (or ran with some of later version).

Therefore I spent a lot of time in testing and doing all with TinyMCE. For TinyMCE there is a free image uploader called tinybrowser (http://www.lunarvis.com/products/tinymcefilebrowserwithupload.php).

The implement of tinybrowser was a bit tricky, but with a few tries, I got it running.

If you want to have a look at it, how it works you could have a look on:

http://www.kimmich-dm.de/kunden/kuechenprofis-bw/index.php

(user: admin no pass).

You may try and if you could be happy with it, we`ll take you through the how to do (or how I did).

Greetz from Germany

Thomas

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Hi Thomas,

Many thanks for joining in on the thread.

This looks promising and shall give it a go, hopefully getting it integrated but shall get back to you if I run into problems.
I did find this: pixture.com - pixture Resources and Information. that might help guide me.

Something to keep me from becoming idle.

regards,

s

just want to slip in this thread, cause to my experience, CKEditor is not running with the latest webyep version (or ran with some of later version).

Therefore I spent a lot of time in testing and doing all with TinyMCE. For TinyMCE there is a free image uploader called tinybrowser (http://www.lunarvis.com/products/tinymcefilebrowserwithupload.php).

The implement of tinybrowser was a bit tricky, but with a few tries, I got it running.

If you want to have a look at it, how it works you could have a look on:

http://www.kimmich-dm.de/kunden/kuechenprofis-bw/index.php

(user: admin no pass).

You may try and if you could be happy with it, we`ll take you through the how to do (or how I did).

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Hi Seoras,

no problem. Ask and I try to answer (if I can:-))

All those drupal stuff was confusing me a bit and I searched long for the correct settings.

Some Tips to start:

  1. Install TinyMCE in the opt folder
  2. Put the TinyBrowser into the TinyMCE Plugins folder
  3. Create a tinymec_init.php and put it in the opt folder.

Those lines the init should contain (after a bunch of others):

and

file_browser_callback : ‘tinyBrowser’,
plugins : “tinybrowser”

Hope it helps you. If not, I can give you mine, but please remind, that my init is a bit overdosed (but it works…). Email me under info(at)kimmich-dm.de.

Thomas

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