[Pro] CSS Menu skipping a "space," unlinking current page

2 questions for the CSS Menu Action, if anyone can help.
For a vertical menu like that at http://luckypro.biz/client/walter/v4/

Is there a way to

  1. …make the spaces --extra lines, blank list items-- not change color when hovered over?

  2. …make the all-caps headings not change color when hovered over?

  3. …make the Links styled (color, weight) and be inactive on their respective pages? (As on the subsequent pages of the test site?)

Or am I better off with the old tried and true HTML tables and roll-over graphics? Thanks!


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OK, I found Ernie’s tutorial at http://www.thebigerns.com/freeway/vertical_listnav/. I think I can do this. Written for v4. Are the principles still relevant?

Also at http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/vertical/ I found an example with “headings” that don’t react in any way when hovered over. Could anyone give advice on how to incorporate this effect in an FW generated style?

Thanks! Any advice appreciated!


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Oh gosh, this is it: Dynamic Drive CSS Library- Urban Grey Side Menu

Arrgh! I’ll try to wrestle this into FW styles, but I don’t know enough about “basing” a style on a style.


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Here’s a scratch page with a vertical and horizontal sample that I use, based on Ernie’s.

http://freshbrand.com/STUFF/CSS_Nav.zip

You can also import the CSS from my FW page to yours by using the Import option in the CSS menu window

Cheers, Marcel


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Thanks, Marcel, for thinking of me. Seems to be something wrong with your link.

I’m puzzling through it. I think the main problem is going to be suppressing the link function on a “here” page. It looks like the style “.navlist a.here” can take over the styling, which is good. But can it prevent the CSS text from still being a link?

In other words, no page should have an active link to itself. That’s bad navigation! I’ll root around some web pages and see if there’s a way to suppress links.


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Sorry about that I moved the site to a new host, you must have looked while I was moving the files - try again


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OK, got it now. Very interesting --and just at the moment beyond me-- use of container and list styling.

But for now, with no way to suppress the “here” link, I can’t use CSS list function. Too confusing to be able to click on a link for the current page. Can’t find anything on the web about this, other than a couple of really complicated javascript methods.

Looks like I’m back to the old table and GIF system. At least I know that will do what I’d like it to! Thanks for the sample. I’m sure it will be my salvation when I get it figured out.


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Too confusing to be able to click on a link for the current page.

I think that you are over thinking this. There are thousands (if not millions) of sites out there that have all their links active on every page (BBC, Continental and the LA Times for just 3) and that is what users expect.

To say that it is ‘too confusing’ is dissing your visitors - yes it may be nice to have this but I don’t think that it is the norm.

David


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Sometime around 10/10/09 (at 22:07 -0400) Bucky Edgett said:

for now, with no way to suppress the “here” link, I can’t use CSS
list function. Too confusing to be able to click on a link for the
current page.

Seriously though, is it really that confusing? It is something
you’ll see all over. I really don’t think that end user confusion
is going to be a serious problem. :slight_smile:

Anyway, in the CSS Menus action, a link to the current page is
changed to an empty anchor link, NOT a link to an actual page. This
shouldn’t cause problems…

Looks like I’m back to the old table and GIF system. At least I know
that will do what I’d like it to!

Note that it won’t be as accessible or search engine-friendly.
Swings, roundabouts, and slides too…

k


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Thanks, friends, for your reassurances. That I see something all over is never to me a recommendation. It’s a phenomenon, surely. But as my sainted mother used to say, “I don’t care what all your friends are doing, you’re not going to…”

Systems are often driven by what’s possible, not what may be best. That seems to be the case with these CSS menus.

SEO considerations aren’t at the top of the list for the current site design. Not many people are googling for artists producing bronze sculpture that sells for tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Accessibility is of concern, hence my wanting to implement a readable system.

I’ll continue to experiment. Of course I can manually disable the “here” link on any page. Given the small --a couple dozen-- number of pages on the site, and the site’s mostly static nature, that’s no big deal.

It’s mostly the styling of the “here” “non-link” I’d like to investigate. Plus, I just want to know what’s possible; what the limitations of the methods are!


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