Andries,
From what I can gather, the site doesn’t have to be on business catalyst to be edited. I think you can use in browser editing wherever it’s hosted as long as you log in through https://inbrowserediting.adobe.com/login/ and use your hosting username and password.
Not sure, maybe Neil could clarify when he gets a moment.
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Thank you very much Neil, your infos are most welcome.
The Galerie at your website is the Rapid Reveal Widget from Muse-Themes, is it not?
Lieben Gruß, Hanna
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Thanks Trevor, I will try this option. Is it then possible that I let my
client login to ALL my sites…? Ohoh…
This is also some usefull info I think:
http://feedback.inbrowserediting.com/whats-new.html
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Thank you very much Neil, your infos are most welcome.
The Galerie at your website is the Rapid Reveal Widget from Muse-Themes,
is it not?Lieben Gruß, Hanna
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Thanks Trevor, I will try this option. Is it then possible that I let my
client login to ALL my sites…? Ohoh…
http://feedback.inbrowserediting.com/whats-new.html
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2016-07-26 16:55 GMT+02:00 star-lights email@hidden:
Thank you very much Neil, your infos are most welcome.
The Galerie at your website is the Rapid Reveal Widget from Muse-Themes,
is it not?Lieben Gruß, Hanna
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@ Hanna
Nice widget is it eh, what Neil has used?
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Thanks Trevor, I will try this option. Is it then possible that I let my
client login to ALL my sites…? Ohoh…
http://feedback.inbrowserediting.com/whats-new.htmlAndries
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Thank you very much Neil, your infos are most welcome.
The Galerie at your website is the Rapid Reveal Widget from Muse-Themes,
is it not?Lieben Gruß, Hanna
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@Andries
Yes, I like that widget very much. I am beginning to love Muse the more I discover!!
I will definetly check out the in-browser editing when I have time after I have learned the basics.
I have honestly never been a big fan of cms, but when there is the possibility for clients to change only some text for instance, it can come in handy.
Thanks for your recommendation in the first place.
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Thanks 
Most of the clients wants a CMS first and afterwards… never use it or
seldom ;-). But its nice if you can offer it,
The IBE had a usefull update in june. Its usefull for most adjustments, I
would not rather see my client changes pagestructures and menus.
http://feedback.inbrowserediting.com/whats-new.html
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@Andries
Yes, I like that widget very much. I am beginning to love Muse the more I
discover!!
I will definetly check out the in-browser editing when I have time after I
have learned the basics.
I have honestly never been a big fan of cms, but when there is the
possibility for clients to change only some text for instance, it can come
in handy.Thanks for your recommendation in the first place.
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Thanks for that link Andries, I’ll check it out tomorrow.
And Hanna - like you, the more I mess around with it, the more I like it. At least it doesn’t crash when you try to move a box around with the cursor!!
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If its of any interest to users considering Muse, I run a Muse group on Facebook: Adobe Muse Support | Facebook
It’s a great place to see what people have created with Muse, get help and advice or just have a chat about all things Muse! Totally unbiased and not moderated by any widget vendors.
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Thnx Neil!
2016-08-03 14:31 GMT+02:00 Neil email@hidden:
If its of any interest to users considering Muse, I run a Muse group on
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/adobemusegroup/It’s a great place to see what people have created with Muse, get help and
advice or just have a chat about all things Muse! Totally unbiased and not
moderated by any widget vendors.Neil
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Thnx again Neil
2016-08-03 18:23 GMT+02:00 email@hidden:
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2016-08-03 14:31 GMT+02:00 Neil email@hidden:
If its of any interest to users considering Muse, I run a Muse group on
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/adobemusegroup/It’s a great place to see what people have created with Muse, get help
and advice or just have a chat about all things Muse! Totally unbiased and
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I’m back to report on my time with Muse so far. Yes, I know it’s a subscription and a lot of you will discount the thought of using it because of that (and the fact it’s Adobe), but here goes, only bmy thoughts on a new programme for me.
As I’m sure you’re well aware because of my previous posts, I like Adobe - there. I’ve said it - and my whole working day is taken up with Illustrator, Photoshop and InDesign, so I know their general feel and tools. Muse sits nicely into the family.
I’ve now been using it on and off for about 2 ½ weeks and I’m really liking it and getting along with it. Initially it’s like a drag n drop Freeway, only more stable, and this will get results. However, using things I’ve learned from Freeway I’ve added to the initial simplicity and just understood how things work, by working in text boxes and doing some stuff inline. It’s a very wysiwyg application to use, breakpoints are easy to adjust and in the working window you can see pretty much how your finished page will be at various sizes and you can adjust accordingly.
You can also set up the responsiveness in 2 different ways, the first being that all of your boxes will respond dynamically and smoothly as the browser window resizes, or a more static version where the content will ‘jump’ to the next responsive sizes as your browser window gets there. Or you can mix and match throughout the site.
Then you have the myriad of Widgets (Muse’ version of actions) to add and enhance. I haven’t delved too deeply into these yet, but ones I have tried seem to work pretty well. As yet, there’s no CMS that I know of, but I have had limited success with their In Browser Editing (which in itself is limiting to what you can edit). Sometimes the changes ‘stick’ sometimes it tells me I don’t have permission to upload the picture, but generally working ok for simple edits.
I don’t think you can do as much with it as you more professionals could with Freeway, but for me it’s fine. You have the option to add bits in the Head area, add snippets of html markup and it’s generally user friendly. You can tell they’ve spent a lot of time on the UI to make it as intuitive as possible.
Because of Muse, I’m going to try and get more web work, as the workflow will be quite seamless between the family of products once I read the instructions!
For me it’s a keeper, and once a proper CMS is available, my life will be complete, sad sod that I am.
Out of interest, and only for playing and getting my head around bits, I’ve redone 2 personal websites, not great, but a very good learning curve for me, so you can see a limited version of what can be done. They took about a day and a half each to do.
I’m not associated with Adobe, I just like ‘em!
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Don’t forget that Inlay (my CMS as a service) works with anything that can create static HTML. There’s really no limit to what you can apply it to.
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Thnx Trevor for sharing! And keep an eye on Agent from Muse-themes as a CMS
option. I think its a more then welcome widget as soon its ready.
What do you exactly mean by this:
You can also set up the responsiveness in 2 different ways, the first
being that all of your boxes will respond dynamically and smoothly as the
browser window resizes, or a more static version where the content will
‘jump’ to the next responsive sizes as your browser window gets there. Or
you can mix and match throughout the site.
A part of it is fluid? Or when you switch to the ‘full width’ button in the
menubar?
Andries
2016-08-16 10:28 GMT+02:00 Trevor Reaveley email@hidden:
I’m back to report on my time with Muse so far. Yes, I know it’s a
subscription and a lot of you will discount the thought of using it because
of that (and the fact it’s Adobe), but here goes, only bmy thoughts on a
new programme for me.As I’m sure you’re well aware because of my previous posts, I like Adobe -
there. I’ve said it - and my whole working day is taken up with
Illustrator, Photoshop and InDesign, so I know their general feel and
tools. Muse sits nicely into the family.I’ve now been using it on and off for about 2 ½ weeks and I’m really
liking it and getting along with it. Initially it’s like a drag n drop
Freeway, only more stable, and this will get results. However, using things
I’ve learned from Freeway I’ve added to the initial simplicity and just
understood how things work, by working in text boxes and doing some stuff
inline. It’s a very wysiwyg application to use, breakpoints are easy to
adjust and in the working window you can see pretty much how your finished
page will be at various sizes and you can adjust accordingly.You can also set up the responsiveness in 2 different ways, the first
being that all of your boxes will respond dynamically and smoothly as the
browser window resizes, or a more static version where the content will
‘jump’ to the next responsive sizes as your browser window gets there. Or
you can mix and match throughout the site.Then you have the myriad of Widgets (Muse’ version of actions) to add and
enhance. I haven’t delved too deeply into these yet, but ones I have tried
seem to work pretty well. As yet, there’s no CMS that I know of, but I have
had limited success with their In Browser Editing (which in itself is
limiting to what you can edit). Sometimes the changes ‘stick’ sometimes it
tells me I don’t have permission to upload the picture, but generally
working ok for simple edits.I don’t think you can do as much with it as you more professionals could
with Freeway, but for me it’s fine. You have the option to add bits in the
Head area, add snippets of html markup and it’s generally user friendly.
You can tell they’ve spent a lot of time on the UI to make it as intuitive
as possible.Because of Muse, I’m going to try and get more web work, as the workflow
will be quite seamless between the family of products once I read the
instructions!For me it’s a keeper, and once a proper CMS is available, my life will be
complete, sad sod that I am.Out of interest, and only for playing and getting my head around bits,
I’ve redone 2 personal websites, not great, but a very good learning curve
for me, so you can see a limited version of what can be done. They took
about a day and a half each to do.http://lunatix.co.uk
http://www.p2v.rocksI’m not associated with Adobe, I just like ‘em!
regards
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I never knew it worked with everything Walter. I’ll have a look at it. Could you post the link again please?
Cheers
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@Walter,
…that can create static HTML…
… you mean only in static sites or also in responsive/adaptive sites?
Or do you mean when its plain HTML, no database or dynamic generated text?
grtz
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I never knew it worked with everything Walter. I’ll have a look at it.
Could you post the link again please?
Cheers
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Hi Andries, not quite full width button, It’s actually easier to see in use than it is to explain.
Adobe have 2 terms for breakpoints, Fluid Width and Fixed Width.
From what I can gather from my limited playtime so far, Fluid Width (depending on your settings) can make all of your text and picture boxes dynamic, so as the browser width is narrowed, you can see them changing shape and proportions until they reach the next set of breakpoint instructions, which then take over.
With Fixed Width, they stay the same proportions, regardless of the browser window when you resize until they reach the next set of breakpoint instructions, and then they snap to the new settings rather than smoothly flow like the Fluid Width setting. This sounds all wrong, and at certain points stuff does spill out of your browser window if you don’t have enough breakpoints, but the upside is that with Fixed Width you can have certain items fade in, move across the page etc. with different scroll settings, which you can’t do with Fluid Width at the moment.
You could, for example, have a desktop setting set at Fixed Width which could have a picture and copy fade in as you scroll down the page, then at say, 768px breakpoint you could jump to Fluid Width where those items are on show (or hidden) from then downwards, but at this point everything would reflow and relay through different breakpoint sizes.
Not sure I can explain any better than this, but you can download and have a play free of charge.
Thanks for the heads up about Agent.
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Thnx Trevor for sharing! And keep an eye on Agent from Muse-themes as a CMS
option. I think its a more then welcome widget as soon its ready.What do you exactly mean by this:
You can also set up the responsiveness in 2 different ways, the first
being that all of your boxes will respond dynamically and smoothly as the
browser window resizes, or a more static version where the content will
‘jump’ to the next responsive sizes as your browser window gets there. Or
you can mix and match throughout the site.
A part of it is fluid? Or when you switch to the ‘full width’ button in the
menubar?
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@Trev
I own Muse for a while with subscription, as part of the CC set. Have done
several trials and errors but not an indepth research. I should, yes I know
Your explanation is good, I didn’t know about the mix that can be achieved
between static/fluid/adaptive and the breakpoints.
It must become my main program but I also bought and tried out CoffeeC’s
RSD and the beta edition of Foundation Framer, Duncan’s Sparkle, Blocs and
Cloudpress.
All are very interesting, I now have to build about 7 websites and will use
at least 3 of these 5 sitebuilders. Just to see which one works best in
practice. Perhaps using all three next to eachother in the future. Each
program has its own features and not all projects demands the same approach.
When only fiddling on a trial version is not the best test. To get things
done in real life is better. And more struggling
Here some info about Agent:
Surreal CMS - Content Management System for Adobe Muse (postphoned)
Agent CMS - Status Report (May 2016)
http://forum.musethemes.com/threads/agent-cms-backwards-compatible.1173/
Andries
2016-08-16 14:51 GMT+02:00 Trevor Reaveley email@hidden:
Hi Andries, not quite full width button, It’s actually easier to see in
use than it is to explain.Adobe have 2 terms for breakpoints, Fluid Width and Fixed Width.
From what I can gather from my limited playtime so far, Fluid Width
(depending on your settings) can make all of your text and picture boxes
dynamic, so as the browser width is narrowed, you can see them changing
shape and proportions until they reach the next set of breakpoint
instructions, which then take over.With Fixed Width, they stay the same proportions, regardless of the
browser window when you resize until they reach the next set of breakpoint
instructions, and then they snap to the new settings rather than smoothly
flow like the Fluid Width setting. This sounds all wrong, and at certain
points stuff does spill out of your browser window if you don’t have enough
breakpoints, but the upside is that with Fixed Width you can have certain
items fade in, move across the page etc. with different scroll settings,
which you can’t do with Fluid Width at the moment.You could, for example, have a desktop setting set at Fixed Width which
could have a picture and copy fade in as you scroll down the page, then at
say, 768px breakpoint you could jump to Fluid Width where those items are
on show (or hidden) from then downwards, but at this point everything would
reflow and relay through different breakpoint sizes.Not sure I can explain any better than this, but you can download and have
a play free of charge.Thanks for the heads up about Agent.
regards
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Thnx Trevor for sharing! And keep an eye on Agent from Muse-themes as a
CMS
option. I think its a more then welcome widget as soon its ready.What do you exactly mean by this:
You can also set up the responsiveness in 2 different ways, the first
being that all of your boxes will respond dynamically and smoothly as the
browser window resizes, or a more static version where the content will
‘jump’ to the next responsive sizes as your browser window gets there. Or
you can mix and match throughout the site.
A part of it is fluid? Or when you switch to the ‘full width’ button in
the
menubar?
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I never knew it worked with everything Walter. I’ll have a look at it. Could you post the link again please?
Cheers
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