Hello. Ive search for this, but I didnet get it.
I just want to make a web that load on full screen when you enter in it, as when you set a fullscreen in flash, that you only view the web in the screen, not bars, menus, or others…
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I don’t think you can do this in a modern browser. You can make a MP4 video play full-screen – that’s built in to the QuickTime player and most modern browsers. But a browser will always have some chrome, even if you disable the toolbar, scrollbars, and other properties.
IE 5 (I think) was the last browser that would allow you to make a fully chrome-less window, I remember seeing a really cool Web page that made a Windows PC look like it was a Mac OS (8 – that’s how long ago this was) computer. with movable, resizable windows, pull-down menus, a global menu bar, etc. I recall it was very jarring to see on my partner’s Darth Vader Edition IBM workstation…
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On Oct 3, 2012, at 12:28 PM, rakeljuice wrote:
Hello. Ive search for this, but I didnet get it.
I just want to make a web that load on full screen when you enter in it, as when you set a fullscreen in flash, that you only view the web in the screen, not bars, menus, or others…
Thanks
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Hello. Thanks for your opinion.
Im always working around video and films via internet. This is my “world”. And when you connect a TV (the new smart tvs) to the net, I want the person to get inside a TV channel, not inside a website.
When you play the video, you can view it fullscreen, of course, but I would like to see all the web full screen.
I just write it to explain myself, and to make clear what I need.
And a question: when you say that its not possible in modern browsers, what do you mean? Full screen doesnt work, or full screen when web is loaded?
Because if fullscreen works if you press a button, I can do with it. Its a good little step.
I hope I made me understood.
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The browsers don’t allow it, possibly because you could write a site that covered over the entire screen and confuse the the user that the browser IS the operating system. Browser windows always have to have a title bar and a close/minimize/grow control showing, because they are not the operating system. The movie full-screen view is a limited exception to this rule.
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On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:49 AM, rakeljuice wrote:
And a question: when you say that its not possible in modern browsers, what do you mean? Full screen doesnt work, or full screen when web is loaded?
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Try Spawn New Window with all the chrome turned off, and the window size set to 100% height and width. That’s as close as you’ll get, and you’ll completely pi** off people like me, who have enormous (multiple) screens, and a finely-honed sense of which window is where and how large it is.
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On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
The browsers don’t allow it, possibly because you could write a site that covered over the entire screen and confuse the the user that the browser IS the operating system. Browser windows always have to have a title bar and a close/minimize/grow control showing, because they are not the operating system. The movie full-screen view is a limited exception to this rule.
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On Oct 4, 2012, at 5:49 AM, rakeljuice wrote:
And a question: when you say that its not possible in modern browsers, what do you mean? Full screen doesnt work, or full screen when web is loaded?
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you’ll completely pi** off people like me, who have enormous (multiple) screens, and a finely-honed sense of which window is where and how large it is.
Thank you Waltd. I dont catch your sense at all… I dont understand the meaning of “you’ll completely pi** off people” and the meaning of “finely-honed sense”. 
As far I understood you, you mean that if you work in large and multiple monitors (so you have at least 2 screens per computer), the web will be over all these screens. I work with at least 2 screens per computer, and I can understand the situation, but…
the web I am making is not a web. Is a TV Channel!!
So what I need is not to see the browser, because it is thought to be used not from a computer, but from a smart TV.
When you enter a TV Channel you dont see a browser. I need this behaviour.
But as this TV Channel is web architectured based, and we have to work with it, it would be fine if I could have a button when you enter that says “see full screen” and you click to have full screen.
The same movie full screen view that you can get with flash when you click a button, and you have other to close, is what I was asking for.
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I hope I made me understood.
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On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:06 AM, rakeljuice wrote:
you’ll completely pi** off people like me, who have enormous (multiple) screens, and a finely-honed sense of which window is where and how large it is.
Thank you Waltd. I dont catch your sense at all… I dont understand the meaning of “you’ll completely pi** off people” and the meaning of “finely-honed sense”.
If you’re presenting me with something in a browser, I consider the browser to be mine – positioned in a particular part of my screens, set to a defined size (never full-screen), and I never visit twice sites that monkey with that relationship.
I can see how your application is totally different, and my prejudices don’t apply here. It’s completely possible (bordering on likely) that such an appliance would have a full-screen mode already – if I were designing such, I’d probably make it the default. Since it’s not a computer, the desktop metaphors don’t apply, and it makes sense that such a device would have a different metaphor entirely – centered around “channels” instead of “sites” or “URLs”.
As far I understood you, you mean that if you work in large and multiple monitors (so you have at least 2 screens per computer), the web will be over all these screens. I work with at least 2 screens per computer, and I can understand the situation, but…
the web I am making is not a web. Is a TV Channel!!
Noted, I understand now.
So what I need is not to see the browser, because it is thought to be used not from a computer, but from a smart TV.
Do you have such a device handy to test with? I don’t know what the normal behavior is in the device you’re targeting, I was speaking only of the traditional PC/Mac desktop browser.
When you enter a TV Channel you dont see a browser. I need this behaviour.
But as this TV Channel is web architectured based, and we have to work with it, it would be fine if I could have a button when you enter that says “see full screen” and you click to have full screen.
The same movie full screen view that you can get with flash when you click a button, and you have other to close, is what I was asking for.
Thanks again
I hope I made me understood.
Yes, I get it now. I am not sure if this problem is one of being able to preview on your Mac what it will look like on the target device, or whether this is a mode you have to switch into on the Smart TV, and you need to know how to get a site to do that.
I am sorry if my earlier comments misled you – if you have this device, is it possible to post a screenshot of how it looks now, and if you have any examples of other channels that exhibit the desired behavior, can you post links to those? I frankly have no idea how these channels might work, but some detective work could prove instructive. There may be a meta tag, like the ones in iPhone Web Apps, that tell the receiving device to hide all the chrome and act like a single-screen application.
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Thanks again.
We have two options to publish this channel: via web or via application.
When you have an application in a smart TV it is full screen. With the remote control you can choose scape to get the main menu of applications, as in a mobile phone.
But when you navigate in the web, you just have a browser like (more or less) the one in a computer, with the address bar, etc. But you enter a web as you were navigation from a computer.
in Spain, a few few few few… people have Smart TV. What most of them do is connecting a computer to the LED/plasma TV via HDMI and open the browser. They search for the film or video and press full screen to see it.
And its more difficult to sell the application to the Smart Tv manufacturers than make it via web. I think, first of all I need to make my channel “famous” via web, and then, if people like it, continue making the app.
So, what I only need to give people the “cinema sense” (let me use this words, althought I dont think they sounds good) is to have the web in full screen just to make them inside the web, inside the cinema. Than you can search for the film or video you want, but inside the web.
Is it possible to make full screen with a button from freeway or inserting a code in some place of the page?
Thanks.
PS I like this forum, its like a tea time, argueing between differents points of views 
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So, what I only need to give people the “cinema sense” (let me use this words, althought I dont think they sounds good) is to have the web in full screen just to make them inside the web, inside the cinema. Than you can search for the film or video you want, but inside the web.
Based on your description I would suggest leaving the browser experience alone. You can always have the movie that a viewer selects to open full screen without changing the browser experience. That’s more or less how Netflix works.
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This seems pretty complicated to me. I don’t even think I’ve ever heard of, let alone seen a smart TV, though I shouldn’t be surprised.
I understand the desire here is to use a browser without it behaving like one. That sounds like a recipe for disappointment. It’s a browser.
If this is even possible, then someone is already doing it – unless it is somehow a bad idea, like setting your face on fire. Find out how they’re doing it. Likely, though, it is impossible and you are chasing the wrong tail.
Also, I agree with Walter’s reaction – hijacking browser control goes against the divine order, risking chaos and monstrous destruction. In fact, history shows – again and again – how Nature points out the folly of men…
Godzilla!!
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hijacking browser control goes against the divine order,
Do you really think that giving the option to view something in full screen is so horrible? You have a close/scape button!!. In the last 10 years Ive maden CDs for publicity and products, with flash or director, and all of them can be watched in full screen or not, as the user decide.
Perhaps I cant understand the completely sense of your words, but I think that if you could, you forbid any chance of design and improvement and change your closest world, just only because you dont like it.
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So, is it possible to make a full screen, or not, please?
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On 5 Oct 2012, at 10:06, “rakeljuice” email@hidden wrote:
So, is it possible to make a full screen, or not, please?
I may have lost the gist of this thread but:
Can you make a video full screen on user input, such as a button click? Yes. This can be done using Flash Video (the FLV Player Action supports it) or HTML5 video (try one of the Actions on ActionsForge).
Can you automatically make a video full screen with no visible browser interface? No. It’s not possible to do this without the user requesting it.
You mention Smart TVs. I have very limited experience in this area but the only time I’ve ever seen anything automatically play in full screen without user input is when viewed through a dedicated application (in this case the excellent BBC iPlayer on the Playstation). Before it became a dedicated application it played in a browser and required an additional click to make it play in full screen mode.
It’s my guess that when Smart TVs become a more popular way of browsing, the providers will come up with ways to do this sort of thing automatically. It’s unlikely we’ll see the same thing happen in more conventional browsers.
Hope this helps,
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Thanks, but I dont need a video full screen option, my video player has already this option. I want the entire site full screen.
Is it possible?
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On 5 Oct 2012, at 12:18, rakeljuice email@hidden wrote:
Thanks, but I dont need a video full screen option, my video player has already this option. I want the entire site full screen.
Is it possible?
No, that’s not possible in any browser I know of. In fact, thinking about it, the browser on the Playstation (which is the closest thing I have to a TV browser) only shows the UI when you move the cursor to the top of the screen. It is, in effect, already displaying at full screen.
If you think your site is better viewed at full screen on a desktop too, perhaps adding something to the page saying so might be the way to go?
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Hello Again!
I think I found what I was looking for, but I have tried it without good results. I think Im not putting it in the right place with freeway. Please, can you help me?
The one I think is better is:
http://robnyman.github.com/fullscreen/
and other ways in:
but for me, these two are a mess…
Well, Im speaking of making full screen the entire site, not a picture or a video.
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Trying to be more accurate: what I am looking for is the background graphic resize to be full screen, and other elements at the website to still float at their current size, like in the first link I gave.
I hope I made me understood. Thanks.
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