[Pro] FW rebuilding the whole site for a simple change?

I’ve posted this before as part of another problem, but I’m now asking the question in its own right.

I’m working on a multi-page CSS site which incorporates the webyep cms and, as would be expected, can’t preview the webyep pages in FW or locally in a browser; as such I have to upload them to my server to view. The problem is that ANY change, no matter how small, on any page causes FW to rebuild and upload the entire site!

I’m not touching master pages. As expected, when I make a change, a bullet point appears next to the page name in the site panel, but as soon as I click ‘upload’, a bullet point appears next to every page - even though I haven’t done anything to affect them.

Is this correct or is there a way around this?

Neil


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I am not sure about WebYep but you can run MAMP locally (for Php pages) and do a file copy to the MAMP location for site development.

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I have had this happen too. If you are using Master Pages or have links on page to pages within your doc it will cause this. It’s a real pain when docs become large…and they tend to crash or freeze up. I’ve started designing sites by pages instead and this really helps with productivity.


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So it appears that it’s not just me then!

Is it an actual ‘bug’ in FW or is it something else?

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It’s Freeway being extra-cautious about your resources, nothing more.
It’s been widely reported, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Softpress
was looking at how to “tune” the behavior… but it’s important to
note that it does this for a reason, and that’s to avoid having out-of-
date graphics on your site.

Walter

On May 11, 2010, at 2:08 PM, neil.west1 wrote:

Is it an actual ‘bug’ in FW or is it something else?


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Sometime around 11/5/10 (at 14:37 -0400) Walter Lee Davis said:

it’s important to note that it does this for a reason, and that’s to
avoid having out-of-date graphics on your site.

It can also be provoked by certain actions. And changes to styles can
do this too.

Personally, the thought of creating a site using separate documents
for separate pages strikes me as the far side of insanity. Sorry
kayj14art, I may be misunderstanding what you mean. But if that’s how
you work I cannot see how that would help with productivity!

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The problem is that ANY change, no matter how small, on any page causes FW to rebuild and upload the entire site!

I feel your pain I have just updated a site with 130+ pages, full of images… you can make a cup of coffee and paint the house while FW is going through the publish and upload cycles.


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On 10 May 2010, 5:10 pm, neil.west1 wrote:

…the problem is that ANY change, no matter how small, on any page causes FW to rebuild and upload the entire site!
Is this correct or is there a way around this?

Neil

Well, in general, no, my experience is that not every change causes the whole-site-is-dirty phenomenon. Now, I’ve seen this behavior. But it’s always been caused by one of several things:

  1. The FW file is somehow wonky. I’ve had site files do the whole-site-rewrite for days, then stop doing it after being closed and reopened. Rare.
  2. Some few things, some mentioned above, force FW to egregiously rewrite.
    2a. The Go To Next/Previous Page Action is notorious.
    2b. Master page changes, of course.
    2c. Style changes, of course.
    2d. Perhaps WebYep does something similar to Go-To-Next/Prev Page, that is, forces FW to compare pages in a folder? Having never used WebYep, I can’t say.
    2e. An edit that creates a new Temp Style, which FW is then going to write on the header of every page.

So in general, if you truly mean that any change, for example a small text edit that doesn’t create a temp style, dirties the whole FW doc, I’d say, with the caveat that I’m guessing, you might have a slightly corrupted FW doc.


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Well, it would appear it’s a little more widespread than I’d thought, so I’ll just persevere and stick with it until Softpress hopefully sort it in the next version.

Thanks

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I think when you create a new text style FW updates every page, even if you’re only using it on one page.


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