[Pro] How to identify what Breakpoint to set up

I have a problem that came to light (obviously been there before) with the advent of the iPhone6, in that the subject site breakpoint settings do not work when the site is viewed in Landscape on the 6.

I have been reading some threads including the one at :

https://freewaytalk.softpress.com/thread/view/161834#m_161834

And realise that the way i have been selecting breakpoints in incorrect,( i have been setting BP to match certain devices ) however i have a slight issue in that i cannot seem to determine what is the correct breakpoint that i should be using?

I can look at a page using Chrome for example and alter the window size until the display format “Breaks” but how do i find out what that display size is please?

Apologies is this is a dead easy thing to do , but i am struggling over this at present.

Thanks for your help?

John


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Hi John,

Do you mean you view the site in say Safari and move the window narrower till for example the menu breaks and to want to set a breakpoint just before that happens?

I use in Safari the developer tools > right click > inspect element and find and element that span the window width and click metrics. (your mileage in other browsers may vary)

Another tool I use is Responsive design testing tool – Viewport Resizer – Emulate various screen resolutions - Best developer device testing toolbar bookmarklet. With this tool in the browser it shows and reports the viewport width as you dynamically resize it -

You can also flip orientation for default device sizes or set your own custom sizes.

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On 15 Oct 2015, at 07:56, ejw email@hidden wrote:

I have a problem that came to light (obviously been there before) with the advent of the iPhone6, in that the subject site breakpoint settings do not work when the site is viewed in Landscape on the 6.

I have been reading some threads including the one at :

https://freewaytalk.softpress.com/thread/view/161834#m_161834

And realise that the way i have been selecting breakpoints in incorrect,( i have been setting BP to match certain devices ) however i have a slight issue in that i cannot seem to determine what is the correct breakpoint that i should be using?

I can look at a page using Chrome for example and alter the window size until the display format “Breaks” but how do i find out what that display size is please?

Apologies is this is a dead easy thing to do , but i am struggling over this at present.

Thanks for your help?

John

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Do you mean you view the site in say Safari and move the window narrower till for example the menu breaks and to want to set a breakpoint just before that happens?

David,

Yes i did…

And the tool you suggested is great thank you very much for the help…

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When you’ve upgraded to OS X 10.11 El Capitan, Safari will contain a very nifty feature: Cmd+Alt+R …

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Richard,

That is very neat, do you know if you can change the attitude of the devices to Landscape?

thx

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Hm - the most robust thing if it comes to “device-testing” is, up to my experience Xcode. The trick here is that I even can inspect and fiddle code (kind of). It’s not the 100% experience, but closest.

But the general point is (water on my mill) that breakpoints are not a device dependent thing (or technical approach) but more a design-requirement.

So my method (and part of my screencasts therefor as well) is:

Think “device-range” rather than “device-specifics”, think “design requirements” rather “technically pixel dimensions”. This will end up (perhaps) in a thing called:

The situation on portrait and landscape shows the same thing, at least most of the time.

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But the general point is (water on my mill) that breakpoints are not a device dependent thing (or technical approach) but more a design-requirement.

Thomas,

Yes fully agree, up to now i had been focusing on “Devices” and seen the error of my ways, and now have to go back and try and redesign a large web site so that it operates more seamlessly across different “window sizes” however this little Safari short cut seems a handy accessible tool just to get some verification of my breakpoint implementation (what ever it turns out to be )

thx

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Excellent tip - I never knew.

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When you’ve upgraded to OS X 10.11 El Capitan, Safari will contain a very nifty feature: Cmd+Alt+R …

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I’m still on Yosemite, and just found that one out the other day!

It’s also in the menu under Develop > Enter Responsive Design Mode, so I reckon it’s the Safari, rather than the OS upgrade.

Trev

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Excellent tip - I never knew.

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This is doing very much what Responsive design testing tool – Viewport Resizer – Emulate various screen resolutions - Best developer device testing toolbar bookmarklet does.

Except it also selects x1, x2, x3 resolutions. Anyone got a retina screen to see what happens with these choices - it’s not obvious using a normal iMac 72” screen here.

…Ooo! it also does spilt screen on the iPad’s.

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…erm that’s 27” inch not 72"

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On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:26, David Owen email@hidden wrote:

This is doing very much what Responsive design testing tool – Viewport Resizer – Emulate various screen resolutions - Best developer device testing toolbar bookmarklet does.

Except it also selects x1, x2, x3 resolutions. Anyone got a retina screen to see what happens with these choices - it’s not obvious using a normal iMac 72” screen here.

…Ooo! it also does spilt screen on the iPad’s.

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On 15 Oct 2015, at 22:52, Richard van Heukelum email@hidden wrote:

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