Thanks to the help of this group I successfully completed my first website using an inline box design. Now, I’m getting ready to start on a new site. Before I do I want to make sure I’m clear on a few points.
My understanding is that when I use an inline box design and I can’t use master pages. Is that correct?
If that is the case, is there anything wrong with designing the whole website with an inline box design, except the header that contains the CSS Menu?
I’m asking this because changing a menu structure is a pretty common occurrence with my clients and it’s a lot easier to simply update the master page instead of every webpage. Any suggestions or advice is much appreciated.
Not all your page has to be an inline box model. You’re right in saying the header (with CSS menu) may only fall 200px or so down your page and common to all pages. Putting the header on a master page means you could add to the menu later on all pages easily.
You could then make a second master with your box model of 200px and below structure to act as a “copy all” and paste in place onto pages in the site pages.
Not really ideal but useable almost.
David Owen { Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains }
Thanks to the help of this group I successfully completed my first website using an inline box design. Now, I’m getting ready to start on a new site. Before I do I want to make sure I’m clear on a few points.
My understanding is that when I use an inline box design and I can’t use master pages. Is that correct?
If that is the case, is there anything wrong with designing the whole website with an inline box design, except the header that contains the CSS Menu?
I’m asking this because changing a menu structure is a pretty common occurrence with my clients and it’s a lot easier to simply update the master page instead of every webpage. Any suggestions or advice is much appreciated.
Tell me again why you can’t use inline layouts with master pages? Seem to
work fine for me.
You can have a separate header, but again, why?
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Ernie Simpson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:39 AM, RavenManiac email@hidden wrote:
Thanks to the help of this group I successfully completed my first website
using an inline box design. Now, I’m getting ready to start on a new site.
Before I do I want to make sure I’m clear on a few points.
My understanding is that when I use an inline box design and I can’t
use master pages. Is that correct?
If that is the case, is there anything wrong with designing the whole
website with an inline box design, except the header that contains the CSS
Menu?
I’m asking this because changing a menu structure is a pretty common
occurrence with my clients and it’s a lot easier to simply update the
master page instead of every webpage. Any suggestions or advice is much
appreciated.
You can put a box model layout on a master page. Any page created from that is fine. But if you edit one of the in-line boxes or inline box > content on an ordinary page the whole box model section on the master is broken as far as the master page is concerned if you want to update only the master. If you consider all pages from a box model master will have different content the whole master to page thing is broken.
You’ll have to try it.
David Owen { Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains }
I didn’t know either - so I made a new freeway file, went to the master
page, built an inline layout, then made new pages with it.
You can too
Adding content to the master pages reflects across the document pages -
that is until content is altered or added-to in the dependent pages, which
is how freeway works. Because inline layouts are, like the letters and
words of this sentence - inline - adding anything inline on the dependent
pages breaks that connection with the master. So it is tricky.
Depending on how many pages your site has, it may be a good idea to create
all the pages in your menu, then add the menu to the master, and then make
sure the master applies to all the pages. Everything you do after that will
break the link to the master.
Again, it really depends on the number of pages in your site and how
difficult it is to make changes. I don’t really use master pages in freeway
pro, it’s just easier for me to copy/paste or to use a different technique,
like ‘includes’ to have one page to make a menu then include it on all the
other pages via markup items.
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Ernie Simpson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM, RavenManiac email@hiddenwrote:
I thought somebody told me that you can’t use master pages with inline
layouts? If you can, that’s great!
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Owen <
email@hidden> wrote:
Ernie,
You can put a box model layout on a master page. Any page created from
that is fine. But if you edit one of the in-line boxes or inline box >
content on an ordinary page the whole box model section on the master is
broken as far as the master page is concerned if you want to update only
the master. If you consider all pages from a box model master will have
different content the whole master to page thing is broken.
I don’t really use master pages in freeway pro, it’s just easier for me to copy/paste
And I thought I was the only one to not use master pages, and felt somewhat guilty for not doing so. Its just so easy to copy and paste and you know you aren’t going to screw up lots of pages.
I did try a master header section for my largest inline site to date (www.isleofrum.com) but the css navigation didn’t work.
Latterly I integrated (easily) the header into the inline layout as I found with it as a separate entity the header loaded after the cms content which was a bit odd.
Its one of my big downers of Freeway pro - hopefully this will be addressed in Freeway 6… I can’t tell you how much extra work this has caused me - I have found a way to reduce it a little by using WebYep CMS on things like the Footer, and other common elements - but the big one is the NAV
So, would it be possible to have a master with the header and footer in it and just insert the inline boxes in the middle? If so, how do I set that up?
On 19 Jul 2012, 1:22 pm, David Owen wrote:
Not all your page has to be an inline box model. You’re right in saying the header (with CSS menu) may only fall 200px or so down your page and common to all pages. Putting the header on a master page means you could add to the menu later on all pages easily.
You could then make a second master with your box model of 200px and below structure to act as a “copy all” and paste in place onto pages in the site pages.
Not really ideal but useable almost.
David Owen { Freeway Friendly Web hosting and Domains
