[Pro] Installing reCaptcha in Contact Form

Moving this from the mail list to a new thread:

"I have spent SOOOO much time over the last week trying to get this to function. I need help. Can someone PLEASE check out my contact page ( HugeDomains.com ) and let me know if they’ve got any ideas. I can also give anyone the FW code behind it.

I don’t care about this specific GUI, just something to protect the form from spamming. This can’t be as difficult as it’s made out to be."


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What is your problem with it Bart?

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Every time I hit the Submit button it sends the field information without first checking whether or not reCaptcha has been filled out with the correct text.

Bart

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On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:03 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

What is your problem with it Bart?

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Here’s a copy of the info you just sent:

Your BlueMail form has been completed, following are the results:

Field Value

Name me

mailfrom email@hidden

Phone 431243431254

Topic test

Comments

recaptcha_challenge_field 02vp3vCBcQWA9nSYCLz1a7Q6PJl-AY5LbEXxlM2mwvyYVpiOcA7LnFlPNsi6v1s1FFJcNVblrMF8ikbBYhdVtwFffiFpp3mWy61kCuZCoESECktwJNKj3z08TITDHTo9946IHJH7qhalloGJgqEOz2MbZ0jtu6bN9QfX_zC_COEs9ePNVSoG62Tux-EborAQiw67tv3XriAHtOLKZJML87fSjyXnyO9cOnpF7oGr7hURpk5pc1aImIh_3Lkua4NH932o5Oxz0WZBxJrRaOG3IzwMrXJaMB

recaptcha_response_field

subject HAB Marketing information Request

Note that I entered a return between fields for readability in this email.

Bart

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On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:03 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

What is your problem with it Bart?

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Here’s your next stab at it.

Your BlueMail form has been completed, following are the results:
Field Value
Name me
mailfrom email@hidden
Phone 431243431254
Topic yet another test
Comments
recaptcha_challenge_field 02vp3vCBcQWA9nSYCLz1a7Q6PJl-AY5LbEXxlM2mwvyYVpiOcA7LnFlPNsi6v1s1FFJcNVblrMF8ikbBYhdVtwFffiFpp3mWy61kCuZCoESECktwJNKj3z08TITDHTo9946IHJH7qhalloGJgqEOz2MbZ0jtu6bN9QfX_zC_COEs9ePNVSoG62Tux-EborAQiw67tv3XriAHtOLKZJML87fSjyXnyO9cOnpF7oGr7hURpk5pc1aImIh_3Lkua4NH932o5Oxz0WZBxJrRaOG3IzwMrXJaMB
recaptcha_response_field wimpier his
subject HAB Marketing information Request

In ALL cases the information is being sent.

Bart

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What is your problem with it Bart?

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It seems to me that the Captcha information is not part of the form - I suspect that the problem is in the the implementation.

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing Up - and I am loathe to do so.

If you can give me the full instructions I will have another look.

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ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account for
the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their server.
It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as one line in
their defense against spammers trying to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and you’ll
need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on the public
'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the
info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing Up -
and I am loathe to do so.


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Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys, and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html that’s generated.

Bart

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772.299.6352
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http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing Up - and I am loathe to do so.


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I realize you went through that, I was telling Dave why they wanted
his info. One of the reasons why you don’t see a ReCaptcha Action is
that it exposes a larger problem to the developer than merely adding
the files and coding the form keys correctly. In order to tell if a
CAPTCHA was properly entered, you have to submit the form to a handler
that is ReCaptcha-aware, and that handler has to also take care of the
rest of the form at the same time.

Tim Plumb’s PHP Feedback Form Action might be a good candidate for
this system, since it already handles nearly any sort of form you can
throw at it. His Action includes a rudimentary “spam trap”, which is a
hidden form field that a spam-bot would fill in (since it can’t “see”
that the field is hidden) and then checks to see if that field was
completed. This is a very good trick, and incredibly user-friendly,
but some clients want to see the CAPTCHA in action, so they know it’s
there. Maybe Tim could extend his Action or create a “With CAPTCHA”
version that uses RC.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where and
how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it
should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page
and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to
insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys,
and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html
that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account
for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their
server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as
one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game” their
system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and
you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on
the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or
localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the
info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing Up

  • and I am loathe to do so.

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HI, Walter -

I’ve looked into that and can’t get his information working either. I’m afraid I’m just lost on this one because I don’t know how to write the code exactly so it doesn’t get changed when its regenerated by FW 5.

If the form action POST had additional parameters where we could simply enter whether or not we elect to use Tim’s method or reCaptcha, and whatever other params were required to do that (ie, public and private keys), then it would flow very nicely.

I just don’t have the time anymore trying to develop a work-around. It shouldn’t be this difficult, I think.

Bart

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772.299.6352
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http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

I realize you went through that, I was telling Dave why they wanted his info. One of the reasons why you don’t see a ReCaptcha Action is that it exposes a larger problem to the developer than merely adding the files and coding the form keys correctly. In order to tell if a CAPTCHA was properly entered, you have to submit the form to a handler that is ReCaptcha-aware, and that handler has to also take care of the rest of the form at the same time.

Tim Plumb’s PHP Feedback Form Action might be a good candidate for this system, since it already handles nearly any sort of form you can throw at it. His Action includes a rudimentary “spam trap”, which is a hidden form field that a spam-bot would fill in (since it can’t “see” that the field is hidden) and then checks to see if that field was completed. This is a very good trick, and incredibly user-friendly, but some clients want to see the CAPTCHA in action, so they know it’s there. Maybe Tim could extend his Action or create a “With CAPTCHA” version that uses RC.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys, and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing Up - and I am loathe to do so.


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Hi Bart

I’ve looked into that and can’t get his information working either

Do you particularly want/need a Captcha?

If you do then there is a bit more pain involved in getting it working.

If you dont - and Tims action with its anti-spam measures does a pretty good job - then it is easy to get a form working v quickly.

There have been some issues with some hosting providers and Tim’s action (most notably GoDaddy) but Tim has worked hard to get it working even with them.

I find Tim’s action the easiest to implement and once you have created one working form it can be copied and pasted into any number of sites with only minor tweaking in the appearance department to get it to fit in.

If you want I can make a form for you that you can copy and paste into your FW file to give it a go.

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i WOULD LOVE IT!!!

Bart

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On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:58 PM, DeltaDave wrote:

Hi Bart

I’ve looked into that and can’t get his information working either

Do you particularly want/need a Captcha?

If you do then there is a bit more pain involved in getting it working.

If you dont - and Tims action with its anti-spam measures does a pretty good job - then it is easy to get a form working v quickly.

There have been some issues with some hosting providers and Tim’s action (most notably GoDaddy) but Tim has worked hard to get it working even with them.

I find Tim’s action the easiest to implement and once you have created one working form it can be copied and pasted into any number of sites with only minor tweaking in the appearance department to get it to fit in.

If you want I can make a form for you that you can copy and paste into your FW file to give it a go.

David


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Hi Bart,

If your server supports ioncube then the PHP easiForm and PHP
easiCaptcha actions can be very simple to use for your form,
personally I know of no simpler way to put a contact form together
with or without a CAPTCHA, the very basic cost for a domain license
can save you 10 times in lost hair and blood pressure pills, you can
even set the whole form up using the actions to make sure it all works
with your server before purchasing a license for use with your domain.
If you are with Go Daddy then from experience the PHP easiForm actions
work with them although it might involve setting the ini file for that
but I have clients that run their forms with easiForm on Go daddy so
that server should not be a problem.

This link has a download link for the actions along with a PDF in form
construction in Freeway using the PHP easiForm actions but the PDF
also outlines the basics on how the various types of form elements
work so it can even help with a form that does not use the PHP
easiForm actions.
http://www.easibase.com/freeway/freewayactions.php

The actions are also available on actionsforge web site ‘although the
PDF is not available there’:
http://www.actionsforge.com/people/view/16-mike_brackenridge

The PHP easiCaptcha has an image or a math question option, you can
see on the easibase website the contact form uses these actions:
http://www.easibase.com/easicontact.php

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where and
how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it
should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page
and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to
insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys,
and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html
that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account
for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their
server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as
one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game” their
system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and
you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on
the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or
localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the
info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing Up

  • and I am loathe to do so.

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Thanks, Mike. I’ll look into this as well.

All my domains, plus all client access folders, etc., are with BlueHost.com but 'm not sure if they feature ioncube. How would I know without actually asking (which I can easily do)

Bart

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772.299.6352
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http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Bart,

If your server supports ioncube then the PHP easiForm and PHP easiCaptcha actions can be very simple to use for your form, personally I know of no simpler way to put a contact form together with or without a CAPTCHA, the very basic cost for a domain license can save you 10 times in lost hair and blood pressure pills, you can even set the whole form up using the actions to make sure it all works with your server before purchasing a license for use with your domain. If you are with Go Daddy then from experience the PHP easiForm actions work with them although it might involve setting the ini file for that but I have clients that run their forms with easiForm on Go daddy so that server should not be a problem.

This link has a download link for the actions along with a PDF in form construction in Freeway using the PHP easiForm actions but the PDF also outlines the basics on how the various types of form elements work so it can even help with a form that does not use the PHP easiForm actions.
Easibase: Freeway Actions

The actions are also available on actionsforge web site ‘although the PDF is not available there’:
Mike Brackenridge - ActionsForge

The PHP easiCaptcha has an image or a math question option, you can see on the easibase website the contact form uses these actions:
http://www.easibase.com/easicontact.php

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys, and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing Up - and I am loathe to do so.


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I think I have clients on bluehost with easiForm but TBH I really
can’t be sure, anyway… you can check very simply, just upload the
ioncube decoders folder in your home directory then go to:
http://www.PUT_DOMAIN_HERE/ioncube/ioncube-loader-helper.php

Download the PHP easiForm actions with ioncube from the easibase web
site and use that ioncube folder that is included with the download,
just drop it into your home directory using an ftp program.

I normally remove the helper files from any domain I use the ioncube
folder on but I have * activated * it again in the ioncube folder on
the easibase server so you can see the page you get:
http://www.easibase.com/ioncube/ioncube-loader-helper.php

If you need any help with it just let me know and I wil have a look.

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Thanks, Mike. I’ll look into this as well.

All my domains, plus all client access folders, etc., are with
BlueHost.com but 'm not sure if they feature ioncube. How would I
know without actually asking (which I can easily do)

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Bart,

If your server supports ioncube then the PHP easiForm and PHP
easiCaptcha actions can be very simple to use for your form,
personally I know of no simpler way to put a contact form together
with or without a CAPTCHA, the very basic cost for a domain license
can save you 10 times in lost hair and blood pressure pills, you
can even set the whole form up using the actions to make sure it
all works with your server before purchasing a license for use with
your domain. If you are with Go Daddy then from experience the PHP
easiForm actions work with them although it might involve setting
the ini file for that but I have clients that run their forms with
easiForm on Go daddy so that server should not be a problem.

This link has a download link for the actions along with a PDF in
form construction in Freeway using the PHP easiForm actions but the
PDF also outlines the basics on how the various types of form
elements work so it can even help with a form that does not use the
PHP easiForm actions.
Easibase: Freeway Actions

The actions are also available on actionsforge web site ‘although
the PDF is not available there’:
Mike Brackenridge - ActionsForge

The PHP easiCaptcha has an image or a math question option, you can
see on the easibase website the contact form uses these actions:
http://www.easibase.com/easicontact.php

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where
and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it
should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page
and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to
insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys,
and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html
that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account
for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their
server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information
as one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game”
their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and
you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere
on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or
localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find the
info about putting it together without, I think, first Signing
Up - and I am loathe to do so.


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After checking the php.ini.default configuration program in cPanel i’ve installed ioncube in this file.

So, now what?? :slight_smile:

Bart

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On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Thanks, Mike. I’ll look into this as well.

All my domains, plus all client access folders, etc., are with BlueHost.com but 'm not sure if they feature ioncube. How would I know without actually asking (which I can easily do)

Bart

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HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Bart,

If your server supports ioncube then the PHP easiForm and PHP easiCaptcha actions can be very simple to use for your form, personally I know of no simpler way to put a contact form together with or without a CAPTCHA, the very basic cost for a domain license can save you 10 times in lost hair and blood pressure pills, you can even set the whole form up using the actions to make sure it all works with your server before purchasing a license for use with your domain. If you are with Go Daddy then from experience the PHP easiForm actions work with them although it might involve setting the ini file for that but I have clients that run their forms with easiForm on Go daddy so that server should not be a problem.

This link has a download link for the actions along with a PDF in form construction in Freeway using the PHP easiForm actions but the PDF also outlines the basics on how the various types of form elements work so it can even help with a form that does not use the PHP easiForm actions.
Easibase: Freeway Actions

The actions are also available on actionsforge web site ‘although the PDF is not available there’:
Mike Brackenridge - ActionsForge

The PHP easiCaptcha has an image or a math question option, you can see on the easibase website the contact form uses these actions:
http://www.easibase.com/easicontact.php

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys, and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

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  1. Install the PHP easiForm and easiCaptcha actions, double clicking
    each of these actions should install them.

  2. You should remove anything from your form that is * added on *,
    like the other CAPTCHA stuff.

  3. Select each form element (Text fields, text areas, menus, check
    boxes or radio buttons) and add an instance of the PHP easiForm
    Element action to them, when each element item is selected you need to
    name them in the ‘Name:’ field in the actions inspector. So if you
    want someone’s name then type ‘name’ (without quotes) in the ‘Name’
    field of the action * inspector *, the same for all the other elements
    I.e: email, message etc. email should be lowercase, no spaces should
    be used in the names, if you want a space use an under slash like
    ‘first_name’ and the easiForm action will replace the under slash with
    a space along with converting the first letter to a capital.
    The ‘Value’ field for each element in the inspector should be left
    blank.

  4. Add an instance of the PHP easiForm Element to the ‘Submit’ button
    also, use ‘submit’ (without quotes) for the ‘Name’ of the submit
    button, the ‘Value’ can be as you want ‘Submit’, ‘Send’, ‘Mandar’ etc.

  5. Add the PHP easiCaptcha action to the cell of the table where you
    want the CAPTCHA and select the type you want, image or math
    (Personally I prefer math), if you select Image then also select the
    other options you want.

  6. Select the actual form page * not something on it * and add the PHP
    easiForm action, add the email address you want the form to go to by
    typing it into the ‘Recipient’ field, if you want any of the fields to
    be required to be used by the sender then add them with comma
    delimiters to the ‘Required’ field on the action pallet for easiform,
    for example if you have the following fields: name, email, telephone
    and message but want the name, email and message fields to be required
    then you would add the following (without quotes) to the ‘Required’
    field of the action: ‘name,email,message’.

  7. Select the ‘Thanks’ page to send the user to’

  8. Name your page ending to .php (Freeway will use .html)

  9. Upload the site to your server using Freeway and the scripts along
    with the pages will be uploaded to your server.

  10. Try loading the form to see if you get any ioncube errors. The
    reason I say this is because you might not need to upload the ioncube
    folder, the fact you have the ioncube option in your cpanel might
    actually mean the WHM that controls your cpanel has installed the
    ioncube decoders universally on the server and so you will not need to
    upload any decoders.

If everything goes well you should receive any email sent by the form
although the thanks page will not load as you will just get an
unlicensed alert at this time but this way you can see if everything
works and if the actions are for you before spending the small amount
of money on a license.

There are many options available in PHP easiForm, CC emails, badwords,
send the user a copy of their message, unique numbering of emails for
threading etc. etc. that are available under the ‘Advanced’ option of
the easiForm action, but you can look at all of that after getting
everything up and running, so get yourself to this stage and let me
know how you get on.

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

After checking the php.ini.default configuration program in cPanel
i’ve installed ioncube in this file.

So, now what?? :slight_smile:

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Thanks, Mike. I’ll look into this as well.

All my domains, plus all client access folders, etc., are with
BlueHost.com but 'm not sure if they feature ioncube. How would I
know without actually asking (which I can easily do)

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Bart,

If your server supports ioncube then the PHP easiForm and PHP
easiCaptcha actions can be very simple to use for your form,
personally I know of no simpler way to put a contact form together
with or without a CAPTCHA, the very basic cost for a domain
license can save you 10 times in lost hair and blood pressure
pills, you can even set the whole form up using the actions to
make sure it all works with your server before purchasing a
license for use with your domain. If you are with Go Daddy then
from experience the PHP easiForm actions work with them although
it might involve setting the ini file for that but I have clients
that run their forms with easiForm on Go daddy so that server
should not be a problem.

This link has a download link for the actions along with a PDF in
form construction in Freeway using the PHP easiForm actions but
the PDF also outlines the basics on how the various types of form
elements work so it can even help with a form that does not use
the PHP easiForm actions.
Easibase: Freeway Actions

The actions are also available on actionsforge web site ‘although
the PDF is not available there’:
Mike Brackenridge - ActionsForge

The PHP easiCaptcha has an image or a math question option, you
can see on the easibase website the contact form uses these actions:
http://www.easibase.com/easicontact.php

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where
and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where
it should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW
page and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to
insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private
keys, and then have it automatically configured to work with the
FW html that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account
for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to
their server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal
information as one line in their defense against spammers trying
to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and
you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere
on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or
localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find
the info about putting it together without, I think, first
Signing Up - and I am loathe to do so.


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OK. Makes sense. I’ll give it a try later on ( after client screenshare for the next hour or two).

I did upload the ioncube folder and run the helper page. Ioncube’s installed and working fine.

Thanks.

Bart

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On Dec 30, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Mike B wrote:

  1. Install the PHP easiForm and easiCaptcha actions, double clicking each of these actions should install them.

  2. You should remove anything from your form that is * added on *, like the other CAPTCHA stuff.

  3. Select each form element (Text fields, text areas, menus, check boxes or radio buttons) and add an instance of the PHP easiForm Element action to them, when each element item is selected you need to name them in the ‘Name:’ field in the actions inspector. So if you want someone’s name then type ‘name’ (without quotes) in the ‘Name’ field of the action * inspector *, the same for all the other elements I.e: email, message etc. email should be lowercase, no spaces should be used in the names, if you want a space use an under slash like ‘first_name’ and the easiForm action will replace the under slash with a space along with converting the first letter to a capital.
    The ‘Value’ field for each element in the inspector should be left blank.

  4. Add an instance of the PHP easiForm Element to the ‘Submit’ button also, use ‘submit’ (without quotes) for the ‘Name’ of the submit button, the ‘Value’ can be as you want ‘Submit’, ‘Send’, ‘Mandar’ etc.

  5. Add the PHP easiCaptcha action to the cell of the table where you want the CAPTCHA and select the type you want, image or math (Personally I prefer math), if you select Image then also select the other options you want.

  6. Select the actual form page * not something on it * and add the PHP easiForm action, add the email address you want the form to go to by typing it into the ‘Recipient’ field, if you want any of the fields to be required to be used by the sender then add them with comma delimiters to the ‘Required’ field on the action pallet for easiform, for example if you have the following fields: name, email, telephone and message but want the name, email and message fields to be required then you would add the following (without quotes) to the ‘Required’ field of the action: ‘name,email,message’.

  7. Select the ‘Thanks’ page to send the user to’

  8. Name your page ending to .php (Freeway will use .html)

  9. Upload the site to your server using Freeway and the scripts along with the pages will be uploaded to your server.

  10. Try loading the form to see if you get any ioncube errors. The reason I say this is because you might not need to upload the ioncube folder, the fact you have the ioncube option in your cpanel might actually mean the WHM that controls your cpanel has installed the ioncube decoders universally on the server and so you will not need to upload any decoders.

If everything goes well you should receive any email sent by the form although the thanks page will not load as you will just get an unlicensed alert at this time but this way you can see if everything works and if the actions are for you before spending the small amount of money on a license.

There are many options available in PHP easiForm, CC emails, badwords, send the user a copy of their message, unique numbering of emails for threading etc. etc. that are available under the ‘Advanced’ option of the easiForm action, but you can look at all of that after getting everything up and running, so get yourself to this stage and let me know how you get on.

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

After checking the php.ini.default configuration program in cPanel i’ve installed ioncube in this file.

So, now what?? :slight_smile:

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Thanks, Mike. I’ll look into this as well.

All my domains, plus all client access folders, etc., are with BlueHost.com but 'm not sure if they feature ioncube. How would I know without actually asking (which I can easily do)

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Bart,

If your server supports ioncube then the PHP easiForm and PHP easiCaptcha actions can be very simple to use for your form, personally I know of no simpler way to put a contact form together with or without a CAPTCHA, the very basic cost for a domain license can save you 10 times in lost hair and blood pressure pills, you can even set the whole form up using the actions to make sure it all works with your server before purchasing a license for use with your domain. If you are with Go Daddy then from experience the PHP easiForm actions work with them although it might involve setting the ini file for that but I have clients that run their forms with easiForm on Go daddy so that server should not be a problem.

This link has a download link for the actions along with a PDF in form construction in Freeway using the PHP easiForm actions but the PDF also outlines the basics on how the various types of form elements work so it can even help with a form that does not use the PHP easiForm actions.
Easibase: Freeway Actions

The actions are also available on actionsforge web site ‘although the PDF is not available there’:
Mike Brackenridge - ActionsForge

The PHP easiCaptcha has an image or a math question option, you can see on the easibase website the contact form uses these actions:
http://www.easibase.com/easicontact.php

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where it should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW page and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private keys, and then have it automatically configured to work with the FW html that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an account for the domain you will be using to submit your requests to their server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for personal information as one line in their defense against spammers trying to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:/// or localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

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Forgot an action…

8a) Select a cell 2 cells above the first form element (best to join a
couple of cells together so you have a long cell above the form) and
add an instance of the PHP easiForm Errors action, this will then
alert the user to any required fields or CAPTCHA error that have. It
also helps to type a space in this cell the action is applied to and
then select it again and add a style so the Error text is styles to
the preferred font.

I will send you an image of how a form in Freeway looks with the
actions applied.

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Mike B wrote:

  1. Install the PHP easiForm and easiCaptcha actions, double clicking
    each of these actions should install them.

  2. You should remove anything from your form that is * added on *,
    like the other CAPTCHA stuff.

  3. Select each form element (Text fields, text areas, menus, check
    boxes or radio buttons) and add an instance of the PHP easiForm
    Element action to them, when each element item is selected you need
    to name them in the ‘Name:’ field in the actions inspector. So if
    you want someone’s name then type ‘name’ (without quotes) in the
    ‘Name’ field of the action * inspector *, the same for all the other
    elements I.e: email, message etc. email should be lowercase, no
    spaces should be used in the names, if you want a space use an under
    slash like ‘first_name’ and the easiForm action will replace the
    under slash with a space along with converting the first letter to a
    capital.
    The ‘Value’ field for each element in the inspector should be left
    blank.

  4. Add an instance of the PHP easiForm Element to the ‘Submit’
    button also, use ‘submit’ (without quotes) for the ‘Name’ of the
    submit button, the ‘Value’ can be as you want ‘Submit’, ‘Send’,
    ‘Mandar’ etc.

  5. Add the PHP easiCaptcha action to the cell of the table where you
    want the CAPTCHA and select the type you want, image or math
    (Personally I prefer math), if you select Image then also select the
    other options you want.

  6. Select the actual form page * not something on it * and add the
    PHP easiForm action, add the email address you want the form to go
    to by typing it into the ‘Recipient’ field, if you want any of the
    fields to be required to be used by the sender then add them with
    comma delimiters to the ‘Required’ field on the action pallet for
    easiform, for example if you have the following fields: name, email,
    telephone and message but want the name, email and message fields to
    be required then you would add the following (without quotes) to the
    ‘Required’ field of the action: ‘name,email,message’.

  7. Select the ‘Thanks’ page to send the user to’

  8. Name your page ending to .php (Freeway will use .html)

  9. Upload the site to your server using Freeway and the scripts
    along with the pages will be uploaded to your server.

  10. Try loading the form to see if you get any ioncube errors. The
    reason I say this is because you might not need to upload the
    ioncube folder, the fact you have the ioncube option in your cpanel
    might actually mean the WHM that controls your cpanel has installed
    the ioncube decoders universally on the server and so you will not
    need to upload any decoders.

If everything goes well you should receive any email sent by the
form although the thanks page will not load as you will just get an
unlicensed alert at this time but this way you can see if everything
works and if the actions are for you before spending the small
amount of money on a license.

There are many options available in PHP easiForm, CC emails,
badwords, send the user a copy of their message, unique numbering of
emails for threading etc. etc. that are available under the
‘Advanced’ option of the easiForm action, but you can look at all of
that after getting everything up and running, so get yourself to
this stage and let me know how you get on.

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

After checking the php.ini.default configuration program in cPanel
i’ve installed ioncube in this file.

So, now what?? :slight_smile:

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Thanks, Mike. I’ll look into this as well.

All my domains, plus all client access folders, etc., are with
BlueHost.com but 'm not sure if they feature ioncube. How would I
know without actually asking (which I can easily do)

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Bart,

If your server supports ioncube then the PHP easiForm and PHP
easiCaptcha actions can be very simple to use for your form,
personally I know of no simpler way to put a contact form
together with or without a CAPTCHA, the very basic cost for a
domain license can save you 10 times in lost hair and blood
pressure pills, you can even set the whole form up using the
actions to make sure it all works with your server before
purchasing a license for use with your domain. If you are with Go
Daddy then from experience the PHP easiForm actions work with
them although it might involve setting the ini file for that but
I have clients that run their forms with easiForm on Go daddy so
that server should not be a problem.

This link has a download link for the actions along with a PDF in
form construction in Freeway using the PHP easiForm actions but
the PDF also outlines the basics on how the various types of form
elements work so it can even help with a form that does not use
the PHP easiForm actions.
Easibase: Freeway Actions

The actions are also available on actionsforge web site ‘although
the PDF is not available there’:
Mike Brackenridge - ActionsForge

The PHP easiCaptcha has an image or a math question option, you
can see on the easibase website the contact form uses these
actions:
http://www.easibase.com/easicontact.php

HTH

Mike

On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

Forgive me, Walter. I have done all of that – last week!

I have my public and private keys and have tried to follow where
and how to insert their code (java script and from lines) where
it should be. I was able to somehow insert all of this into a FW
page and it did show up, which is what you see.

I wish there were an action that supported a simple routine to
insert areCaptcha into form, pass it your public and private
keys, and then have it automatically configured to work with the
FW html that’s generated.

Bart

Bart Bartholomay
HAB Marketing
3725 8th Lane
Vero Beach, FL 32960
772.299.6352
Filemaker Business Alliance
http://HABMarketing.com

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:

ReCaptcha requires you to sign up, and also to create an
account for the domain you will be using to submit your
requests to their server. It’s not so much a creepy grab for
personal information as one line in their defense against
spammers trying to “game” their system.

If you want to test their system, you’ll need to sign up, and
you’ll need to host the test site from a named server somewhere
on the public 'net. It’s not possible to test from a file:///
or localhost:// address.

Walter

On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

I had a quick look at the recaptcha site but I couldn’t find
the info about putting it together without, I think, first
Signing Up - and I am loathe to do so.


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Great, that should be the difficult part over and done with then :slight_smile:

On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Bart Bartholomay wrote:

OK. Makes sense. I’ll give it a try later on ( after client
screenshare for the next hour or two).

I did upload the ioncube folder and run the helper page. Ioncube’s
installed and working fine.

Thanks.

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