This has happened twice in past year. Every page with Meta Tags ie Descriptions and Keywords has disappeared from my Freeway document. I am positive that no one has touched the files except me. I could not have accidently deleted such important information as it would be a tedious task on 30 pages. Currently have Freeway Pro 5.3.2 build (6235) installed. Just discovered the issue and don’t know when the Meta Tags disappeared this time. Could have been last Freeway version, don’t know.
I’ve now edited all descriptions and keywords in an external text file for safe keeping, but would like peace of mind as to how this is happening.
Hmmm…that’s a strange one!
I haven’t experience anything like that, although I remember in a much older version I couldn’t get the meta tags to delete (so exactly the opposite problem!)
Did you apply the tags to the master pages or each page separately?
Do you mean that they disappeared after being uploaded (in other words did you upload them with meta tags, check they were there, then check again and they had gone?)
Are you saying that the meta tags disappeared, or the pages? (It’s not
clear from your question.) Did you create these meta tags in Freeway,
or did you edit the HTML that Freeway published and add them there?
Walter
On May 18, 2009, at 5:52 AM, cosjr wrote:
This has happened twice in past year. Every page with Meta Tags ie
Descriptions and Keywords has disappeared from my Freeway document.
I put the MT’s in the Freeway file on each page where I want the MT’s to go using the menu item Page/Meta Tags…
The pages are there, the custom tags just aren’t (were’nt-I re-added them) there any more.
I read on a previous post that if the tags are on a per page basis instead of a Master Page, they will be overwritten when you reapply the Master. That seems dumb. Or perhaps my understanding of MT’s is wrong. I have descriptions and keywords for each product area and don’t want to have separate Master Pages for each.
Well, as long as the master page has no meta tags there shouldn’t be a problem. Unless you have added the meta tags then reapplied the master - in which case you’d lose them!
Hmmmm. That seems bug-shaped to me. The usual case when you detach a
child page from its master is that re-applying the master adds new
copies of the master items that are already on the child. I wonder
what the weezards in Oxford have to say about this…
Walter
On May 18, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Fergus T wrote:
Well, as long as the master page has no meta tags there shouldn’t be
a problem. Unless you have added the meta tags then reapplied the
master - in which case you’d lose them!
If you ‘wanted’ to apply any Master to a page would you always necessarily
want any of the page parameters associated not associated with that Master
to remain? (I agree it is dumb to allow it to be so easy too lose work).
Perhaps duplicating a Master and then changing parameters might be a better
way - though am only guessing that this is relevant to your case.
Attention Softpress!: Would it be possible for Freeway to warn a user that
certain information or settings will be lost if proceeding - and of course
and option to cancel out of the action. (Such warning could be turned off in
preferences for those who grow to not need it).
I seem to recall losing Form information in a similar way before.
all the best
Brian
cosjr said recently:
Thanks for the replys.
I put the MT’s in the Freeway file on each page where I want the MT’s to go
using the menu item Page/Meta Tags…
The pages are there, the custom tags just aren’t (were’nt-I re-added them)
there any more.
I read on a previous post that if the tags are on a per page basis instead of
a Master Page, they will be overwritten when you reapply the Master. That
seems dumb. Or perhaps my understanding of MT’s is wrong. I have descriptions
and keywords for each product area and don’t want to have separate Master
Pages for each.
Sometime around 18/5/09 (at 09:27 -0400) cosjr said:
I read on a previous post that if the tags are on a per page basis
instead of a Master Page, they will be overwritten when you reapply
the Master. That seems dumb.
Well, you really should try to avoid using that Reapply Master
feature. It is a blunt instrument, but it does work as designed.
Personally, I virtually never use it.
Yes, Reapply Master is a blunt instrument and I TRY to avoid it, but found it’s much too easy to unwittingly edit master page items when editing sections of a page. By the time you realize your editing the wrong thing - you’re toast. Too hard to go back and it’s much easier to just Reapply Master. Also, if you accidently move a master object just one pixel while on a page, it becomes a duplicate on the page. It would be nice if all Master Page items were auto-locked when you are on a page. Would make more sense. Maybe that is a feature I’m unaware of?
If it is a mistaken edit then select the edited item and restore Master
content and or settings in the Inspector pallet.
You can of course manually lock such items on a Master page.
There was a recent tip about reapplying Masters - use a blank master to show
the orphaned Master page objects - then delete these before resetting to the
original master.
Yes I’m always forgetting to edit the master copy myself!
Sometimes - it is easier to cut the edited item and paste it in place of the
Master item I thought I was working on.
Freeway could easily have warnings that could be turned off in preferences
if the user doesn’t want them.
all the best
Brian
cosjr said recently:
Yes, Reapply Master is a blunt instrument and I TRY to avoid it, but found
it’s much too easy to unwittingly edit master page items when editing sections
of a page. By the time you realize your editing the wrong thing - you’re
toast. Too hard to go back and it’s much easier to just Reapply Master. Also,
if you accidently move a master object just one pixel while on a page, it
becomes a duplicate on the page. It would be nice if all Master Page items
were auto-locked when you are on a page. Would make more sense. Maybe that is
a feature I’m unaware of?
Guess I should have subscribed to this forum a long time ago. I would have saved a lot of time and frustration… My MTs kept disappearing, and yes, I do re-apply the master quite a bit, in fact I have been building my skill around that premise.
As this is my first site, I make quit a few broad changes; as my knowledge increases my web site ‘vision’ improves, i.e. I see more of the page through the thinning fog of technical challenge!
I do not see my dependance on the reapply feature ending soon (it is a fast correction esp. when locking several item together at once and moving them), but would prefer to have a feature like a ‘lock’ on individual pages meta data, or the ability to delete a rewritten tag set as happens when a master is applied over a moved master item, on a page.
Well, thats my 2 bits. Now I have to check the prefs and see if something isn’t already there. Hmmm…