[Pro] Need to necessarily improve image quality

I created a new page with several large thumbnails which are 72dpi and twice the measurements on a 100% screen to scale them down to about 50% size for a better quality (did as suggested on the High-Resolution websites in Freeway - Freeway - Softpress Talk)

I must be doing something wrong because the image quality is horrible. I did open the File menu and selected document Setup, opened Graphics tab, checked Output high-resolution graphics option, Set High-res Quality option to the max.
To import images I dragged them from their place on my computer onto the graphic box I created beforehand.

What is the problem?

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What is the problem?

If you want quality images then never drag and drop.

Select the container (graphic or html) and File > Import

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Thanks Dave. I tried the way you suggest already as well and after receiveing your email I tried it again with File> Import. Exactly the same effect. Not good. http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

I took the image in 300dpi and File>Imported it, tehn shrunk it (just like the other ones, 50% as it never does it by itself , which is what I understood from the info High-Resolution websites in Freeway - Freeway - Softpress Talk https://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/447/High-Resolution+websites+in+Freeway)

Nothing changed. Same awful quality on the browser and uploaded. Looks good on the Freeway page as I am working on it.

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

This was the reason why I upgraded to Freway Pro, to make sure I get good quality images. Need to fix this somehow…

http://www.imagixi.com

http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com

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What is the problem?

If you want quality images then never drag and drop.

Select the container (graphic or html) and File > Import

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For some reason the quality of the thumbnails is unacceptable. The large size painting is Ok, but not really good. I have tried with different sizes of images, different resolutions, nothing helps. I had the same problem with Freeway Express. Somebody mentioned something about “pass through" images, or something like that. What do I need to do to have a good quality images? They all look good on my FW page but horrible on the browser (Safari)
http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/83.html

http://www.imagixi.com

http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

Thanks Dave. I tried the way you suggest already as well and after receiveing your email I tried it again with File> Import. Exactly the same effect. Not good. http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

I took the image in 300dpi and File>Imported it, tehn shrunk it (just like the other ones, 50% as it never does it by itself , which is what I understood from the info High-Resolution websites in Freeway - Freeway - Softpress Talk https://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/447/High-Resolution+websites+in+Freeway)

Nothing changed. Same awful quality on the browser and uploaded. Looks good on the Freeway page as I am working on it.

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

This was the reason why I upgraded to Freway Pro, to make sure I get good quality images. Need to fix this somehow…

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

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What is the problem?

If you want quality images then never drag and drop.

Select the container (graphic or html) and File > Import

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I changed the image container from graphic to HTML and the quality is fine! Very happy! I did not have to sit with this for too long, but I had no idea before that the graphic tool would not work for images!

http://www.imagixi.com

http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

For some reason the quality of the thumbnails is unacceptable. The large size painting is Ok, but not really good. I have tried with different sizes of images, different resolutions, nothing helps. I had the same problem with Freeway Express. Somebody mentioned something about “pass through" images, or something like that. What do I need to do to have a good quality images? They all look good on my FW page but horrible on the browser (Safari)
http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/83.html

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

Thanks Dave. I tried the way you suggest already as well and after receiveing your email I tried it again with File> Import. Exactly the same effect. Not good. http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

I took the image in 300dpi and File>Imported it, tehn shrunk it (just like the other ones, 50% as it never does it by itself , which is what I understood from the info High-Resolution websites in Freeway - Freeway - Softpress Talk https://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/447/High-Resolution+websites+in+Freeway)

Nothing changed. Same awful quality on the browser and uploaded. Looks good on the Freeway page as I am working on it.

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

This was the reason why I upgraded to Freway Pro, to make sure I get good quality images. Need to fix this somehow…

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

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What is the problem?

If you want quality images then never drag and drop.

Select the container (graphic or html) and File > Import

D


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You may be mistaking ppi (pixels per inch) for overall resolution (pixel dimensions). If your images were made at 300ppi, but were only 200 pixels wide, and you brought them into a regular graphic box larger than 200 px width, you would see enlarged (invented) pixels, and resulting loss of quality.

If your images are pre-compressed and sized in another application, then using the HTML box to position them (or checking the Pass-through option in the File / Import dialog when populating a graphics box, which accomplishes the exact same thing) is the correct thing to do. Pass-through images cannot be resized or cropped or altered in any way, so if you have already taken those steps, then using pass-through gives you the assurance that your hard work won’t be stepped on by a system designed to deal with non-Web graphics.

A regular Freeway graphic box is always going to compress the content you place in it, and may also change the output format (if your image wasn’t JPEG to begin with). While all of these options are configurable, Freeway’s default is to set a graphic box containing a full-color image (so, not a GIF) to JPEG, 75% quality, 72ppi. If you check High Resolution to enable “Retina” images, then this changes to JPEG, 30% quality, 144.ppi. Click once on an image box and look in the Output tab of the Inspector to see and adjust these preferences for that image, or in the Document Setup dialog to change any new images you add after making a change (existing images are never altered by the document setup).

These defaults and conventions are based around the understanding that many designers will keep their images in their original non-compressed format, at very high resolution. If you use the regular graphics box as a sketching tool, and then finesse the final images later using Photoshop or another professional image preparation tool, you will have the speed benefit of being able to re-crop and size an image to suit your design or your client’s whims, and then only have to break out the big and heavy finishing tools once, after approval.

Walter

On Feb 15, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

I changed the image container from graphic to HTML and the quality is fine! Very happy! I did not have to sit with this for too long, but I had no idea before that the graphic tool would not work for images!

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

For some reason the quality of the thumbnails is unacceptable. The large size painting is Ok, but not really good. I have tried with different sizes of images, different resolutions, nothing helps. I had the same problem with Freeway Express. Somebody mentioned something about “pass through" images, or something like that. What do I need to do to have a good quality images? They all look good on my FW page but horrible on the browser (Safari)
http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/83.html

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

Thanks Dave. I tried the way you suggest already as well and after receiveing your email I tried it again with File> Import. Exactly the same effect. Not good. http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

I took the image in 300dpi and File>Imported it, tehn shrunk it (just like the other ones, 50% as it never does it by itself , which is what I understood from the info High-Resolution websites in Freeway - Freeway - Softpress Talk https://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/447/High-Resolution+websites+in+Freeway)

Nothing changed. Same awful quality on the browser and uploaded. Looks good on the Freeway page as I am working on it.

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

This was the reason why I upgraded to Freway Pro, to make sure I get good quality images. Need to fix this somehow…

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 6:05 PM, DeltaDave email@hidden wrote:

What is the problem?

If you want quality images then never drag and drop.

Select the container (graphic or html) and File > Import

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Thank you Walter. All of my image files are rather large and I was making them smaller by adjusting dpi (equals ppi I guess?) from 300 to 72. But if I used the graphic box no matter what it was in size it just looked terrible, not pixelated but with weird dots all over. Using HTML box for everything fixed the problem, it sems at least on my screen and on my phone as well. I am using the images in original size now (although I made the thumbnails smaller they are still bigger than the box they are going into and they get easily rescaled on the page together with the box they are in). It works. I guess the option pass through must have been checked all along, becasue I noticed it only now after reading your info. I prepare all of my images in Photshop and they are always in .jpg format. When putting them in HTML container they look good whether 72ppi or 300 or in between. I hope it looks good on every computer (browser) becasue I had a problem before with pc computer monitors showing everything with strange lines and it got fixed by using only gif containers., which gave a bad quality. There is so much I don’t understand about it, but I built 4 websites with FW Express in the past, now I am trying to upgrade one of them and need good quality images.

http://www.imagixi.com

http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com

On Feb 15, 2016, at 5:20 AM, Walter Lee Davis email@hidden wrote:

You may be mistaking ppi (pixels per inch) for overall resolution (pixel dimensions). If your images were made at 300ppi, but were only 200 pixels wide, and you brought them into a regular graphic box larger than 200 px width, you would see enlarged (invented) pixels, and resulting loss of quality.

If your images are pre-compressed and sized in another application, then using the HTML box to position them (or checking the Pass-through option in the File / Import dialog when populating a graphics box, which accomplishes the exact same thing) is the correct thing to do. Pass-through images cannot be resized or cropped or altered in any way, so if you have already taken those steps, then using pass-through gives you the assurance that your hard work won’t be stepped on by a system designed to deal with non-Web graphics.

A regular Freeway graphic box is always going to compress the content you place in it, and may also change the output format (if your image wasn’t JPEG to begin with). While all of these options are configurable, Freeway’s default is to set a graphic box containing a full-color image (so, not a GIF) to JPEG, 75% quality, 72ppi. If you check High Resolution to enable “Retina” images, then this changes to JPEG, 30% quality, 144.ppi. Click once on an image box and look in the Output tab of the Inspector to see and adjust these preferences for that image, or in the Document Setup dialog to change any new images you add after making a change (existing images are never altered by the document setup).

These defaults and conventions are based around the understanding that many designers will keep their images in their original non-compressed format, at very high resolution. If you use the regular graphics box as a sketching tool, and then finesse the final images later using Photoshop or another professional image preparation tool, you will have the speed benefit of being able to re-crop and size an image to suit your design or your client’s whims, and then only have to break out the big and heavy finishing tools once, after approval.

Walter

On Feb 15, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

I changed the image container from graphic to HTML and the quality is fine! Very happy! I did not have to sit with this for too long, but I had no idea before that the graphic tool would not work for images!

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

For some reason the quality of the thumbnails is unacceptable. The large size painting is Ok, but not really good. I have tried with different sizes of images, different resolutions, nothing helps. I had the same problem with Freeway Express. Somebody mentioned something about “pass through" images, or something like that. What do I need to do to have a good quality images? They all look good on my FW page but horrible on the browser (Safari)
http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/83.html

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Monique Rebelle email@hidden wrote:

Thanks Dave. I tried the way you suggest already as well and after receiveing your email I tried it again with File> Import. Exactly the same effect. Not good. http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

I took the image in 300dpi and File>Imported it, tehn shrunk it (just like the other ones, 50% as it never does it by itself , which is what I understood from the info High-Resolution websites in Freeway - Freeway - Softpress Talk https://www.softpress.com/kb/questions/447/High-Resolution+websites+in+Freeway)

Nothing changed. Same awful quality on the browser and uploaded. Looks good on the Freeway page as I am working on it.

http://www.moniquerebelle.com/paintings.html

This was the reason why I upgraded to Freway Pro, to make sure I get good quality images. Need to fix this somehow…

http://www.imagixi.com
http://www.moniquerebelle.com
http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com
http://www.imagicall.com

On Feb 14, 2016, at 6:05 PM, DeltaDave email@hidden wrote:

What is the problem?

If you want quality images then never drag and drop.

Select the container (graphic or html) and File > Import

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Don’t import images while relying on Freeway to render them perfectly. It doesn’t. Import them pass-through (or as-is so to speak). Change width to ‘fixed (%)’ and scale them down when you need to (never scale them up).

‘Pass-through importing’ keep the used images intact, they’re not re-rendered. The images you’ve created are the ones that are used in the project, not rendered copies made by Freeway.

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Awesome. Thanks.

http://www.imagixi.com

http://www.moniquerebellephotography.com

On Feb 15, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Richard van Heukelum email@hidden wrote:

Don’t import images while relying on Freeway to render them perfectly. It doesn’t. Import them pass-through (or as-is so to speak). Change width to ‘fixed (%)’ and scale them down when you need to (never scale them up).

‘Pass-through importing’ keep the used images intact, they’re not re-rendered. The images you’ve created are the ones that are used in the project, not rendered copies made by Freeway.

Richard


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