[Pro] No half second Transition FX action?

JonH · September 30, 2010, 3:18pm

I’m using the Transition FX delay action to let the different elements on a page appear successively in one second gaps. When I tried one element with half a second gap (0,5) the whole page opened at once with no actions working at all. Does this mean 1 second delay is the downward limit, or am I missing something? Anyone?

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waltd · September 30, 2010, 3:49pm

Try using a dot (full stop, period) instead of a comma for your
decimal separator. JavaScript doesn’t recognize the comma as a
decimals separator.

Walter

On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Jon wrote:

I’m using the Transition FX delay action to let the different
elements on a page appear successively in one second gaps. When I
tried one element with half a second gap (0,5) the whole page opened
at once with no actions working at all. Does this mean 1 second
delay is the downward limit, or am I missing something? Anyone?

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 4:10pm

Thanks for the speedy response.

I’ve tried that, and what happens is that when I put in for example 3.5 as a delay, when I press the shift button it automatically changes to 3,5!

In other words, it is impossible to use the full stop in the delay box. Strange…

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waltd · September 30, 2010, 4:23pm

Joe will have to help you on that, I’m afraid. The Softpress Actions
use a fancier input field than my Scripty Actions, and it’s paying
attention to your language settings in Mac OS when it creates that
field. Have you verified that the resulting JavaScript code includes
the comma (view source, look for any instance of the word onclick in
the source, search around that point for something that looks like
duration: 0.5 or duration: 0,5 in the code).

Walter

On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Jon wrote:

Thanks for the speedy response.

I’ve tried that, and what happens is that when I put in for example
3.5 as a delay, when I press the shift button it automatically
changes to 3,5!

In other words, it is impossible to use the full stop in the delay
box. Strange…

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 5:04pm

Hello again, and thank you,

This is the nearest I could find as per your instructions:

Event.observe(window,‘load’,function(){new Effect.Appear(‘WebSolutions’, {duration:1, delay:3})});

This is how it looks when I try 2.5:

Event.observe(window,‘load’,function(){new Effect.Appear(‘WebSolutions’, {duration:1, delay:2,5})});

A comma. What is strange is that this little comma stops everything else on the page to appear with delay.

Let’s hope someone has a suggestion.

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waltd · September 30, 2010, 5:29pm

Having a comma in this spot is going to create a real problem, because
you are inside of a JavaScript Hash, and hashes use commas to delimit
key - value pairs from one another:

{foo:bar, baz:blah, boo:bah}

So having a comma in there like this:

new Effect.Appear('item', {duration:1, delay:0,3})

Means something like this:

duration = 1
delay = 0
3 = null //and here an error occurs

Scriptaculous is incredibly well-written, so it probably works its way
through that error, but it might not. Side effects could include
nothing else on your page working as expected.

Walter

On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jon wrote:

Hello again, and thank you,

This is the nearest I could find as per your instructions:

Event.observe(window,‘load’,function(){new
Effect.Appear(‘WebSolutions’, {duration:1, delay:3})});

This is how it looks when I try 2.5:

Event.observe(window,‘load’,function(){new
Effect.Appear(‘WebSolutions’, {duration:1, delay:2,5})});

A comma. What is strange is that this little comma stops everything
else on the page to appear with delay.

Let’s hope someone has a suggestion.

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 5:36pm

…so now I have to find out how to make the Freeway action not convert a full stop to a comma. Hm-m.

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waltd · September 30, 2010, 5:40pm

Try setting your Mac to US or UK English for the interface language
using System Preferences. Joe at Softpress will know more precisely
what the best answer is here. I know it can be worked around.

Inside the Action, the value could be escaped so that any commas are
converted to dots, but that would require opening up the Action and
editing it. Not sure if those Actions are encoded, but if so, it would
be like trying to read a GIF with a text editor.

Walter

On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Jon wrote:

…so now I have to find out how to make the Freeway action not
convert a full stop to a comma. Hm-m.

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 5:47pm

Perhaps Joe (?) at Softpress will see this and come up with a suggestion. Opening up an action or even doing some coding is not my cup of tea. That’s why I’m doing Freeway.

My Mac is set to US English as default.

Thank you for using your time, Walter.

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Joe2 · September 30, 2010, 6:31pm

Hi Jon,

It’s actually the number formatting options in the Language and Text section of the System preferences that convert dots to commas in number fields. We have an open task logged to prevent Freeway from doing this - in the meantime, if you’re using Snow Leopard (I haven’t got Leopard open to check) you can set the Decimal option in the Numbers section of the Format pane in there:

Joe

On 30 Sep 2010, at 18:47, Jon wrote:

Perhaps Joe (?) at Softpress will see this and come up with a suggestion. Opening up an action or even doing some coding is not my cup of tea. That’s why I’m doing Freeway.

My Mac is set to US English as default.

Thank you for using your time, Walter.

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 7:02pm

Hello Joe,

Thank you for cutting in. I looked in the Language and Text section. All was ok there.

I’m using Snow Leopard and have also now changed language to “British”.

But no go, I’m afraid. By the way, this is not a big issue for me, so don’t stand on your head for this now.

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Joe2 · September 30, 2010, 7:44pm

Do you have the region set to something other than US or UK?

On 30 Sep 2010, at 20:02, Jon wrote:

Hello Joe,

Thank you for cutting in. I looked in the Language and Text section. All was ok there.

I’m using Snow Leopard and have also now changed language to “British”.

But no go, I’m afraid. By the way, this is not a big issue for me, so don’t stand on your head for this now.

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 7:56pm

It was set to “custom”. I changed it to UK, but still no luck. I live in Spain. Mystery.
Jon

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waltd · September 30, 2010, 8:02pm

Did you find the setting for decimal separators? What version of Mac
OS are you using there?

Walter

On Sep 30, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Jon wrote:

It was set to “custom”. I changed it to UK, but still no luck. I
live in Spain. Mystery.
Jon

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 8:09pm

OSX 10.6.4 and yes, the decimal separator in system preferences was set to dot originally.
Jon

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 8:15pm

Ok, all is good! The only thing I didn’t do after changing to UK as region was to quit Freeway and start it again. Now I did and everything is fine! The mysterious dot stays a dot. Thank you both.
Jon

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JonH · September 30, 2010, 8:30pm

I’m so bored when I encounter web sites which take ages to load, usually full of moving flash and windows appearing in such a way that I can go and get my coffee waiting. If I’m not jumping to another site, that is.

Experimenting with a new design for my own pages I suddenly realized I was doing the same… Blush. Easy to get caught, I suppose.

So I decided to try to speed things up a bit. Have a look:

http://www.jonhalvorsen.com/test1/

Thanks very much, both of you, anyway, for using your time in such a trivial matter.

Jon

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chuckamuck · September 30, 2010, 11:10pm

Totally agree about Flash. Way over used. Simple is almost always best.

Your first two images after your logo and menu appear are so titillatingly quick I don’t have time to ogle them, but I guess that’s the idea.

Your rollover menus I think would work better if they replace each other when rolled over instead of all staying visible at the same time, but just my personal opinion.

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David_McCallum · September 30, 2010, 11:37pm

Your first two images after your logo and menu appear are so titillatingly quick

Agreed - just so quick as to be annoying!

David

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JonH · October 1, 2010, 10:20am

Thanks for the input, boys. Chuck (?), with the menus what you said would be ideal, but I’m using the Target show/hide Layer and Rollover actions and it seems that that effect is not possible. Any suggestions how to do that with other means?
Jon

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