[Pro] No multiple undo?

Whilst all the new functions in FW6 are welcome, I can’t believe that after what seems like an eternity, we still don’t have multiple undo. I was looking forward to the day when I don’t have to clutter up my desktop with 'SiteV1, Site v1a, Site V1b… etc before making any changes. It’s like using Quark 15 years ago.

And I know this sounds trivial (blame the designer in me) but I was looking forward to a little spruce up of the interface. I can’t help but feel like I’m still using FW5. Or 4…

Feels like Exhibio is from a different company - would of been nice to see some ‘product family’ appearance.

But like I said, it’s trivial compared to what’s under the hood, and the changes are very welcome.

Neil.


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I agree totally, and whilst I still have to have a good look at the new features, nothing stands out to me that I’ve not already achieved in v5.5, although with additional work. I need a bit more time with it, and although I’ll upgrade, there seems to be quite a few bugs (from what this forum is saying) and FW5 docs are not simply opening up without errors. I’l be holding off for a while, which is frustrating as I was so looking forward to this release.

I too was hoping for an interface spruce up - and undos! This is an incremental upgrade to me rather than a full on new product, but i guess the price reflects it. One thing I still cant fathom, is why they havent shown individual padding and margin values in the inspector at first glance rather than having to go through an extra click and dialog box for custom values. I would have thought this would be a simple feature to add to the UI - one that would have been welcomed considering the amount of times I use them.


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On 1 Feb 2013, at 10:42, Neil wrote:

we still don’t have multiple undo

I don’t think I’m stepping out of line, but I was “inside” working with the Freeway software guys a few years ago. I know that multiple undos comes high on the wish lists all the time.

To get a good, reliable, bullet-proof multi-level undo into Freeway probably needs a fair slice of code to be rewritten, some of which goes back to Freeway’s earliest years. It’s a considerable job.

I feel sure the coders are busy behind the scenes working on this stuff, but they’ll be the first to admit they won’t ship something with Freeway that doesn’t do the job properly.

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Agree about the margins, I use this a lot too, especially when building box model layouts.

However, reading through the ‘what’s new’ PDF, there really is a substantial amount updated in this release, and certainly merits a full number change to 6. The implementation of HTML 5 is a huge bonus, but a steep learning curve. Have a read of this:

http://download.softpress.com/downloads/whats_new_in_freeway_6.pdf

I don’t want to sound like I’m disappointed with FW6, it represents excellent value and is a superb piece of software. It’s just those pesky undo’s. Maybe with 6.5.


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On 1 Feb 2013, at 10:42, Neil wrote:

we still don’t have multiple undo

I don’t think I’m stepping out of line, but I was “inside” working with the Freeway software guys a few years ago. I know that multiple undos comes high on the wish lists all the time.

To get a good, reliable, bullet-proof multi-level undo into Freeway probably needs a fair slice of code to be rewritten, some of which goes back to Freeway’s earliest years. It’s a considerable job.

I feel sure the coders are busy behind the scenes working on this stuff, but they’ll be the first to admit they won’t ship something with Freeway that doesn’t do the job properly.

Heather

I heard this very same thing years ago. And I absolutely agree that they should develop FW with out without undos to keep up with the trends.

I think that as it’s been ages since V5 there was a real excitement that this release may have had it. I’d speculate we wont ever see multiple undos then in this current gen of Freeway, until there is a complete overhaul of its core including UI. Can’t imagine how many years we’ll be waiting. :frowning:

That being said, Freeway is still better than it’s direct competitors right now, and I hope it keeps that way.


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I assumed it would entail quite a rewrite, and I fully understand their situation. I’m in no place to criticise since I can’t write a line of HTML let alone programme! I guess I just see the situation from a users point of view though.

I don’t want this to seem like a rant either, I’m really pleased with what they’ve achieved and there will always be feature requests that are difficult to cover.

Thinking outside the box on the interface - who knows, maybe they’re holding off for OS 11 and whatever that looks like, it’s not all that far off…!

Now I’m just looking forward to having a spare few hours to go through all the new features… oh, spare time… remind me what that is…

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I think that’s a good point you raise about keeping up with curent trends - I guess it would be a disaster to release FW6 with no HTML5 support but with multiple undo’s.

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I have to agree that multiple undos would have been a really nice addition, but I too heard that feature was a ground up rebuild.


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I guess it’s a case of how long you can keep developing new features without adding multiple undo. I guess at some point they’ll have to stop and decide nows the time to start again.

But like I said, maybe they’ll leave that until OS 11, in case a rebuild is needed then anyway.

I really have no clue what I’m talking about… :slight_smile:


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Considering how long this feature is requested (even before FW5) and the 5 years between the release between Freeway 5 and 6 … I certainly hope this process of (total) rebuilding process already is near completion :S

When this process takes so much longer than the development of Freeway 6 did, we have to wait at least for 5-6 years from now.


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