[Pro] Non web-safe colour

I am unable to select a colour that is not ‘web-safe’. Whenever I use the colour wheel, then RGB sliders, the colour ‘snaps back’ to a web-safe colour.

I’ve hunted everywhere, read all that I can find to do with colours in the manual, but I can’t find where I’m going wrong. Can anyone suggest how I do this?

(All I’m after is to change a flat-colour graphic object, which will be uploaded as a gif).

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On 10 Jan 2011, at 11:03, grantsymon wrote:

I am unable to select a colour that is not ‘web-safe’. Whenever I use the colour wheel, then RGB sliders, the colour ‘snaps back’ to a web-safe colour.

In the colours palette, click the ‘cogwheel’ icon and uncheck ‘Web Safe’.

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On 10 Jan 2011, at 11:03, Paul Bradforth wrote:

In the colours palette, click the ‘cogwheel’ icon and uncheck ‘Web Safe’.

This is already done. I’ve tried many times.

Just to be clear … this is not normal behaviour right? There aren’t any settings anywhere other than the cogwheel, which would limit my choices?

If it isn’t behaving correctly, any suggestions about what I start deleting in order to fix it? Preferences/caches anything else?


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When you say the RGB sliders, do you mean the sliders in the Color Picker? If so, you might have a Color Picker plugin installed that’s causing this to happen. Take a look in your Library/ColorPicker and ~/Library/ColorPicker folders to see if you have a one installed. If you do, try removing it (back it up somewhere) to see if that fixes the problem.

The only other thing in Freeway that could cause this to happen is the Web Safe checkbox at the bottom of the Color dialog:

If it’s still happening then clearing the preferences won’t hurt, I guess.

Joe

On 10 Jan 2011, at 11:43, grantsymon wrote:

On 10 Jan 2011, at 11:03, Paul Bradforth wrote:

In the colours palette, click the ‘cogwheel’ icon and uncheck ‘Web Safe’.

This is already done. I’ve tried many times.

Just to be clear … this is not normal behaviour right? There aren’t any settings anywhere other than the cogwheel, which would limit my choices?

If it isn’t behaving correctly, any suggestions about what I start deleting in order to fix it? Preferences/caches anything else?


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Joe,

thanks for the reply.

I can confirm that deleting prefs and cache makes no difference.

I’m running FWPro 5.4.3 (6287.1)

When I select a colour in the Styles palette (or any other way) and choose ‘Edit’, then click the Colour Wheel, then choose a colour, for example, via the RGB sliders, the click OK … the colour is not accepted/applied. Instead it ‘snaps back’ to the nearest web-safe colour.

Here’s a Grab to demonstrate. (NB that you can see the web-safe colour ‘selected’ in the background)

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColours.jpg


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hi grant,

you may change the amount of colours to thousand or millions in freeway document adjustments … probably there is 256 as default?

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Hi Dieter,

thanks for that. I hadn’t looked there. Sadly it makes no difference. This is what I have :

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColours2.jpg

This looks like a bug to me. I have made a New Document and it’s just the same.

Interestingly, when I click the Color-Wheel to choose a new colour, the Web-Safe checkbox is un-checked, yet when I click OK in the Color-Wheel dialog, the Web-Safe checkbox becomes checked. This is a ‘once only’ event, per colour. Going through the process again does not show this behaviour … yet I am still unable to select a non-Web-Safe colour.

(Prefs and Cache have been trashed.)


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do you have checked color plugins/colormanagement, as joe mentioned? you don’t have any problems in other apps (photoshop…)? otherwise, no idea …

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Hi Grant,

D07F2F isn’t a web safe color. If you check and uncheck the Web-safe checkbox Freeway will switch to CC6633 (a web safe color) and back again. I’m not sure why D07F2F is slightly darker in Freeway than the picker…

Joe

On 10 Jan 2011, at 13:55, grantsymon wrote:

Hi Dieter,

thanks for that. I hadn’t looked there. Sadly it makes no difference. This is what I have :

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColours2.jpg

This looks like a bug to me. I have made a New Document and it’s just the same.

Interestingly, when I click the Color-Wheel to choose a new colour, the Web-Safe checkbox is un-checked, yet when I click OK in the Color-Wheel dialog, the Web-Safe checkbox becomes checked. This is a ‘once only’ event, per colour. Going through the process again does not show this behaviour … yet I am still unable to select a non-Web-Safe colour.

(Prefs and Cache have been trashed.)


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Hi Joe, Dieter,

yes I have ensured there are no plugins (I run extremely ‘plain vanilla’ systems). I am NOT seeing this problem in any other apps. For example, iWeb can choose, display and upload the colour. So it’s a Freeway issue.

Can anyone confirm that they are NOT seeing this behaviour?

Just to be clear. The chosen colour is not being applied at all. Publishing the site and viewing a block of the colour in a browser, shows that it is the darker colour that is being used, presumably from the 216 palette. I appear to be stuck with the 216 colours.

This is for a graphic element that will be uploaded as a gif … but I can’t even get the background of a page to accept the lighter colour, or indeed anything that isn’t in the 216 palette.


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in the past i’ve had similary issues with differences in colourbehaviour (graphics to background etc.) - if i couldn’t get equal colours, i took a gif as background (10px pattern, you know).

but for now, i can’t notice any differences in colour, chosen by colourpicker or slider, compared to imported graphics with same values. no problems with picking up non websafe colours, either.

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Perhaps you could have a look at this short screen-grab movie, which shows what happens when I try to select a non 216 palette colour. (Why the hell do we even have these absurd palettes anyway?)

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColour.mov

Any help will be very much appreciated. :slight_smile:


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good question … my english is not so good to explain these mysteries of colormanagement, displays.

i can affirm colour shifting via hsb-sliders. you’ve tried the rgb-sliders? there, the colour values should remain.
but if you’re still stucked with the 216 color palette, you’ll have no success.

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Hi Grant,

The two HSB colors in your video are the same, despite them having different values. If you repeat the steps in your video but after moving the sliders to 0, 0 and 50 take a look at the RGB value it will be 108, 108, 108. Then click OK and reopen the Picker, the HSB values will be different (as in your video) but the RGB values will still be the same.

I can assure you there is no switching to web safe going on :slight_smile:

Joe

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Perhaps you could have a look at this short screen-grab movie, which shows what happens when I try to select a non 216 palette colour. (Why the hell do we even have these absurd palettes anyway?)

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColour.mov

Any help will be very much appreciated. :slight_smile:


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I’ve taken a look at your movie and done my own test, which replicates what you show. However, the edited colour is applied to the Freeway document when you click OK (without a second visit to the color-picker). What seems to happen when you go to edit the colour again is that the color-picker reads it back in incorrectly, with changed HSB values, which suggests a bug may be in the color-picker interface and not necessarily Freeway itself.

The important consideration is that on changing a colour, via the Inspector Edit “Cog”, the correct new colour is applied to the document.

However, as I am not competent to solve the technical issue of your problem, but hope that my comments might inspire someone who is, I do suggest you file a bug report with Softpress.

Here’s how: http://www.softpress.com/support/reportingabug

Colin

On 11 Jan 2011, at 13:48, grantsymon wrote:

Perhaps you could have a look at this short screen-grab movie, which shows what happens when I try to select a non 216 palette colour. (Why the hell do we even have these absurd palettes anyway?)

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColour.mov


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Thanks for the replies.

Joe … I can confirm that the colour is NOT applied to the document. I have opened the colour in a web-browser, on 3 Macs and it is the darker colour that is retained.

But there’s more! :slight_smile:

In my movie I tried to change the grey to 55%. It failed. HOWEVER, if I use the ‘Grey Slider’ to select this colour, it succeeds. AND STICKS!

Images are worth a thousand words :

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColour2.mov


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One thing you could try - painful though it is - is to uninstall and re-install the application, after removing all Freeway preferences from Library>Preferences. On my machine a changed colour is definitely applied to the document, with the caveat I rarely use HS, more often RGB, Hex or the color-wheel and ‘spy-glass’ to match colours.

Colin

On 11 Jan 2011, at 15:24, grantsymon wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

Joe … I can confirm that the colour is NOT applied to the document. I have opened the colour in a web-browser, on 3 Macs and it is the darker colour that is retained.

But there’s more! :slight_smile:

In my movie I tried to change the grey to 55%. It failed. HOWEVER, if I use the ‘Grey Slider’ to select this colour, it succeeds. AND STICKS!

Images are worth a thousand words :

http://web.me.com/grantsymon/Grabs/FreewayColour2.mov


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Are there any developments regarding this issue?

These color shifts have been happening to me for a long time. I like using HSB, but Freeway seems to insist on snapping colors back to what I assume are web-safe colors. I’ve tried clicking OK while viewing the color in RGB, but to no avail.

I can always add the color in via an Extended dialog, but it would really be nice to be able to design with precision directly from the color palette.


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