[Pro] "required" field in form and PHPfeedback form

Not sure I’m understanding the “Required” checkbox in an HTML5 Form (TEXT pallet). Does checking this mean that that field must be filled out, i.e. mandatory — otherwise the form will not be submitted?

This is what I’m trying to achieve on several fields (name, email, city/town, phone) .

The form is then submitted with PHPFeedbackForm action to weed out spambots.

The form is being submitted even if those fields are left empty…

all guidance appreciated.

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Hi Todd,
Add the Validate Action to your form elements and you should be set;
http://www.actionsforge.com/actions/validate
Regards,
Tim.

On 16 Jul 2014, at 03:24, DVTVFilm wrote:

This is what I’m trying to achieve on several fields (name, email, city/town, phone) .


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yes. checking ‘required’ means that the form will not submit when that
field its not filled in. Normally it should prompt with an error message.

Op 16 jul. 2014 04:24 schreef “DVTVFilm” email@hidden:

Not sure I’m understanding the “Required” checkbox in an HTML5 Form (TEXT
pallet). Does checking this mean that that field must be filled out, i.e.
mandatory — otherwise the form will not be submitted?

This is what I’m trying to achieve on several fields (name, email,
city/town, phone) .

The form is then submitted with PHPFeedbackForm action to weed out
spambots.

The form is being submitted even if those fields are left empty…

all guidance appreciated.

regards

TODD


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action to weed out spambots

Unfortunately this won’t stop the thousands of poorly paid Asians that are employed to fill out forms manually.
Enabling the spam trap feature in the action will help forms autofilled by bots.

And if you are using the PHPFF. action then also ensure that your name and email fields are correctly named under the third tab in the inspector - these should be name and email and are case sensitive.

Read the section on special names at FreewayActions.com | PHP feedback form

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As a side note I just saw this article on human captcha cracking while looking for something else (that I didn’t find!);
http://www.spamfighter.com/News-14984-Spammers-Outsourcing-Captcha-Cracking-Task-For-Cheap.htm
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On 16 Jul 2014, at 10:57, DeltaDave wrote:

Unfortunately this won’t stop the thousands of poorly paid Asians that are employed to fill out forms manually.


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at a rate of $1/1000 cracks

I knew they were cheap but that is slave labour!

How can we defend against that?

D


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Well you can’t really. It was this article that lead me to that report;

As you can see they discourage use of captchas on their own sites because of usability and accessibility issues. That coupled with the fact that they can be easily cracked by teams of workers makes them next to useless (certainly for high profile/traffic sites). For smaller sites I think most users just need to keep an eye on IP addresses (or ranges) as well as detecting common words and phrases that mark the comment as spam. Comment spam is always an arms race and you will always end up chasing spam that falls through the net. The trick is to week out the big chunks as best you can.
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Tim.

On 16 Jul 2014, at 12:11, DeltaDave wrote:

How can we defend against that?


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Hi Tim,

I downloaded the Validation Suite— applied it only to the “email” field left the email blank as a test-- hit submit— and the form was submitted anyway without validating the field

I also have phpfeedback action on the page—I’m thinking that this bypasses the validation suite?


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I also have phpfeedback action on the page—-I’m thinking that this bypasses the validation suite?

No - it doesn’t

As it happens the email field has built in validation if it is correctly named when using the PHPFF action.

Is the page online somewhere? And is JavaScript enabled in the browser you are testing with?

Can you post a link please.

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Hello Dave,

I removed the Validation Suite from the link-- but I’ll put it back on tomorrow at the office and post the link so you can see it.

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