[Pro] Text link style won't stay speced on new page

I’m totally clueless on this one,
I have built a page that I want to use as a template for hundreds more pages. I have it just the way I want it, perfect!
I have it saved as a master, right? Create a new page based on it, right? everything’s the same EXCEPT the text link styles pick up this unsightly underline which absolutely will not do for the style I want. It’s a duplicate page and I checked all the text link style specs in the inspector on both pages and they are identical?!!! (global tls works fine it’s just the artifact/underline appears on the copied page)

I’ve rebuilt the page, reapplied the master, force republish, checked both those master content/master settings, etc. I’m also having a tough time reapplying the master on subsequent pages, it won’t seem to update so I have to spec everything twice. And every time I re-open the site my slide show has to be updated manually. I have no idea at this point where to look for the problem, are they related?anyone have any ideas?

Many thanks in advance, I’m baffled.


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Text link styles can be applied in several ways.

  • 1 On a page wide basis - with nothing selected on the page look in the Page Inspector under the paintbrush icon in the Links section.

  • 2 On an item basis - with the HTML container that has the links in it selected - look in the HTML Item Inspector under the paintbrush icon in the Links section.

  • 3 If it is a CSS Menu item then the action palette for the CSS Menu has its own link settings for both the Main Menu and the Sub Menu.

  • 4 There is also a Text Link Style action that can be applied to HTML containers.

So check each/all of these to see if you have any conflicting settings.

David


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Yup! I went through an ordeal finding the right way to specify it and I found #1 (page global tls) worked the best, no specs on the item just the page with no item selected. It works great, it’s the NEW page based on the master that has the problem. I’m thinking it’s some code thing that gets written into the master or the page based on the master but where do I look? Everything looks identical, as it should but the underline(I think it might be an artifact) appears…I’m goin’ bonkers!


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Ok I thought perhaps I’d found a workaround by duplicating the page rather than making a master, then basing the page on the new master, Cool, I thought I had it solved. So the global page specifications are already there, they’re working all I have to do is link my text and the styles are already specified, right? WRONG, all new links have that (insert expletive+ing) underline but only on new links, I’m exhausted…


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One little thing that can get links upset to the viewer anyway is the style for visited.

If you have set a visited link to underline : none, on your test page where you’ve tested all the links there are no underlines anymore, but on every new page there are underlines ~ un-visited.

One to check if that’s the issues here.

David

On 17 Jun 2011, at 04:45, “Louise Ann Donahue” email@hidden wrote:

Ok I thought perhaps I’d found a workaround by duplicating the page rather than making a master, then basing the page on the new master, Cool, I thought I had it solved. So the global page specifications are already there, they’re working all I have to do is link my text and the styles are already specified, right? WRONG, all new links have that (insert expletive+ing) underline but only on new links, I’m exhausted…


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I’m exhausted…

If you can post a link to a page on your server we can have a closer look at the code.

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Thank you for your idea David, I have no underlines speced at all in any states so there is no placed to turn off underlines on visited. I’ve actually given up. The links that will not conform to the page-wide TLS parameters, I just speced them (the ones where the underline just appears outta nowhere) item-wise with the item action, it will be a pain to do it on a hundred pages but I can’t figure it out with my current understanding of Freeway.

This is what I did:

1 On a page wide basis - with nothing selected on the page look in the Page Inspector under the paintbrush icon in the Links section, I also watched a video which outlines the same procedure, and it works great, it just won’t carry over to new links or duplicate pages, the underline keeps coming back like a bad penny!

There is probably somewhere to mess with code but I chose Freeway because I don’t want to deal with code. I’m still working with it on my local drive so can’t send a link yet, but thanks for the input.

I thought it would so efficient to build the tls into the architecture of the page and then use dupes of the page to build the site but I guess I was mistaken, ugh.


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Even if you post one page somewhere (piggybacked onto another site?) then at least we can have a look and see if there is something obvious.

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Let me see if I can figure out how to do that.


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If you select the page name in the Site Inspector you can Edit>Copy

Go to another FW doc select the site folder in the Site Inspector Edit>Paste

Easy way to transfer a page from 1 FW doc to another.

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Ok, I did that and uploaded it but now how do I navigate to that page? Sorry, I’m just a beginner. But sure enough, once I copied the page over to a different site all those underlines came back when I previewed in the browser!


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hey, I figured it out all by myself!

http://louiseanndonahue.com/test

LOL, so obvious, thanks for teaching me. You’ll see those underlines all came back!


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You have an underline because the default browser styling is kicking in.

You need to make sure that the underline setting in the Link Style is correct ie click once on the U to the right of the link colour.

Your code for links is this

a:link { color:#aeaeae }
a:visited { color:#aeaeae }
a:hover { color:#83807b }
a:active { color:#aeaeae }

When it should be:

a:link { color:#aeaeae; text-decoration:none }
a:visited { color:#aeaeae; text-decoration:none }
a:hover { color:#83807b; text-decoration:none }
a:active { color:#aeaeae; text-decoration:none }

But you wont get that unless you click just once on the U

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But where do I put this code? I specified everything in the more…section of the TLS page action. I thought freeway was absolutely no coding! Also, why click on the U thing when I don’t want an underline, then add code override it? That’s kind of perplexing. I don’t get it…Just trying to understand.


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But where do I put this code? I specified everything in the more…section of the TLS page action

You dont need to put the code anywhere - that is the code that has been generated by FW

The single click on the U has the effect of writing the code for you.

text-decoration:none

It is any area that is not particularly well documented.

The easiest way to try it is view a page with a link on it in FW - with nothing selected on the page look in the Page Inspector.

With the Paintbrush selected look in the Link section

Click once on the U for the Normal state - did the underline go away?

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I don’t get it…Just trying to understand.

What Dave is referring to is at the bottom of the inspector pallet. As he put it in step 1 “look in the Page Inspector under the paintbrush icon in the Links section.”


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Yikes, I’m getting so confused! I believe that is what I did, only that video (dansker) I watched warned against clicking on that U and using the more…dialogue, which is what I did. Ok, I will try really hard to undo what I’ve done and try it again and give a report.


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Did it, worked! I duped the page and it held, added a link and it held. Now how would anyone know to do that? Everywhere else in Freeway and most other WP programs you click the U with the underline icon to make it underline not to remove it! Then there is the issue that it works but not for new links or copied pages so non-code people wouldn’t know where to look for the problem. One cannot tell from that dumb little icon whether it’s been clicked or not, the more…thing doesn’t give any clues either unless you know that the style has to be +ed but the U not clicked. This is possibly to keep certain individuals with obdurate logic from becoming web designers, lol!

Good Deal, thanks guys.


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Just to try and clarify what clicking on that U does

normal state - no specific code written - browser default applies (underline)

1 click - a:link { text-decoration:none } - no underline

2 clicks - a:link { text-decoration:underline } - overrides browser default to create underline ( dark grey U )

The 2 click state affects the appearance of the U significantly ie makes it a darker grey.

So if it is darker grey then 2 clicks will make sure the underline is off.

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Now that you have defined the link state on a page-wide basis - if you wanted a section to have different characteristics then you would select the HTML container that contains the links you want to appear different and repeat the process with other settings.

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