[Pro] Web Yep, footer, and Master Pages

Something I have tried to figure out for a long time.

Several of my design clients wish to use Web Yep on their sites, for maybe one or two pages. But, the body area being expandable, therefore pushing the footer down, has been a troubling issue for me.

Here is my workflow on the pages:

Draw the Master. ON this page draw a container so that the background can always have a different color or image than that of the area on the left and right sides of the page.

Inside this container, I place the curser and insert two html items. One I call BODY and the other FOOTER. I usually adjust size and add the margin on top of the body, so that it pushes down far enough for a header above the body, therefore pushing the footer down. Often, when I put in the web-yep items I click the box on the inspector of the BODY that would make this page variable length so that it can expand every time the customer changes information in his web yep item on whatever page is setup that way.

By the time I have done all this, the body and footer are no longer connected to the master page. The body, most always is different for every page, so this is not a issue…but the footer, if the footer has to be changed, I have to change it manually on every page, as it has no longer a connection to the master.

But, I do want to have the floating length so that the footer will push down, without me having to make room for the client each time he wants his page longer or shorter due to his web yep content.

This is a dilemma I have encountered and wondered what others of you have done to work with this issue.

Also, so much mouse clicking has left my shoulder and right hand in a bad way. Any ideas for that ?? LOL LOL

Any suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks,

Rich


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Or, could I put something on the server for the footer, that I would only have to build and change, but let the html item for the footer reference a server doc that would load its content ??

Not sure if that makes sense, but…

Thanks,

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Are you taking advantage of WebYep’s global items? Say your footer had some links in it, you could simply just set it to be global and it would change it on all pages if you changed it once on some page.

Ideally you would hope for some sort of embed template or something, but WebYep in its simplicity doesn’t offer anything close to that other than setting global items.


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So, Dan…

are you saying to build the footer in Web Yep ? I have the footer as a regular html items as it is on pages that are not set up for web yep.

Can some kind of “server-side includes” file be set up for the footer with style and links set ? Then I would only have to modify one file and it would appear on all pages.

I am curious how others out there deal with having a body area that is expandable, dependent on content of each individual page, so that I don’t have to constantly adjust my page lengths and also page lengths for those using the web-yep pages.

I appreciate the help.

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You might want to look at Paul Dunning’s Footer Action[1], or Tim
Plumb’s Simple Include Pro suite.

Walter

  1. http://www.actionsworld.com/Actions/MakeFooter/index.php
  2. FreewayActions.com | Simple Include Pro

On Mar 22, 2011, at 8:46 AM, sampolfonz wrote:

So, Dan…

are you saying to build the footer in Web Yep ? I have the footer
as a regular html items as it is on pages that are not set up for
web yep.

Can some kind of “server-side includes” file be set up for the
footer with style and links set ? Then I would only have to modify
one file and it would appear on all pages.

I am curious how others out there deal with having a body area that
is expandable, dependent on content of each individual page, so that
I don’t have to constantly adjust my page lengths and also page
lengths for those using the web-yep pages.

I appreciate the help.

Rich


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Global items are your best bet with what you asked, however Waltd produces some interesting alternatives. The Make Footer action seems to be what you are looking for however at the time of this posting the freewayactions.com link is tossing up a server reset message.

I would have hoped, still do, that Freeway will not become so action-ized and turn more into core software features now that box-model or RPL are such a hit.

If you try one suggestion out, post back so others know if it works or not.


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Odd. The site appears fine now. I’ve had uptime issues with this server on and off for a while (ever since the host was acquired by another company) so I guess I’ll be talking their support department again today! :slight_smile:
Thanks for the heads up Dan.
Regards,
Tim.

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however at the time of this posting the freewayactions.com link is tossing up a server reset message

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I might be worth investing the time learning how to create “inline” Freeway sites that flex with CMS content. I’m sure Dan has some example training videos. It’s a bit fiddly to get your head round, but once learnt is a >> very valuable << piece of your web designer must have techniques.

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On 22 Mar 2011, at 03:14, sampolfonz wrote:

Several of my design clients wish to use Web Yep on their sites, for maybe one or two pages. But, the body area being expandable, therefore pushing the footer down, has been a troubling issue for me.


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Hi Dan.

I thought I better step in and answer what I think are a few miss-understandings.
What the webyep actions allow you to do is place webyep code in specific areas of your choosing. You are even able to convert standard freeway items into webyep items so as long as you insert webyep item as inlines then they will act just like a normal freeway inline item.
So if you are able to construct an inline footer with freeway then you should be able to construct the exact same thing with the webyep elements.

As far as a footer’s content being the same on every page then as long as you set the global reference to true within the action palette then any text or image on any page other page with the same reference name will contain the same content, so there should be no need for includes.

I hope that helps a little

all the best Max


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