[Pro] What to do when this happens???

I generally do this:

  1. Keep freeway and my document open all the time (I rarely shut the program down)

  2. I make changes, I hit SAVE a lot and hit upload.

  3. The changes are made to the site and this is my daily routine.

But once in a while a CRASH happens and closes FW.

When this happens and I reopen my site in FW I have often lost many of my changes (like days) even though I have uploaded.

I think I get why it happens but I need advice on what to do not when the crash happens, but what to do so that when it does CRASH i can re-open and not lose much. Is there something I can hit (apparantly not “save”) that will “lock in” those changes even of crash?

I thought I read once that if you save and exit the program and re-open, the changes are locked in, but I cannot see doing that very much.

Thanks for a simple tip,

Barry


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The key is saving your FWP document and doing so often. Uploading only writes the code to your site, but doesn’t save the FWP document, which is vital.


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Then how come when I hit File, Save, it does not 100% lock in the changes if a crash happens???

Do you think it should lock them in after hitting save, and do you think that if my file reopens and 10 changes are not there that that means I definitely did not hit SAVE since then?

I believe I do hit it a lot but maybe I need to do it more.

thanks,

Barry


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Barry, try publishing your document first [Option P], then hit save.


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is that a quick process or a long one?
And I should do that every few hours or so after changes?

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I also always hit PREVIEW in browser so I would think it is rebuilding those pages. I would think a crash would not revert to prior changes then. That is where I am confused.

I found this

“When you publish, all your altered pages are regenerated, but nothing is shown to you in a browser.”

So I should hit
Publish site
Save

each time??


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All I can think of, after the crash are you opening the backup file and not
the regular file? - easier to do than it sounds.


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i am opening the regular file not the backup.

WHich should I be opening?


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i just looked at the date and time of my backup file and the date and time was Wed night. THat was about the last changes I saw after my crash today when I reopened the regular file. (i.e. I lost all changes done on THurs and this morning).

so after a crash it reverts to the backup day and time kind of??

I think I am getting closer to figuring this out but not there yet.


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if I hit SAVE, then close the file (thus updating the backup), will I ever risk re-opening it up and the changes not being there??


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The regular file. The reason I asked is that when I’ve accidentally opened
the backup file, it is usually not as current as the working file.

I’m just reaching for explanations why you are having problems - and that’s
all I can come up with.


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On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Barry Hoffman email@hidden wrote:

i am opening the regular file not the backup.

WHich should I be opening?


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Saving does not update the backup. In order to update the backup, you have to close the document, then re-open it successfully. After it has been re-opened, the fwbackup is updated to the state it was in when it was re-opened. This is a safety measure, to avoid corruption.

Walter

On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

if I hit SAVE, then close the file (thus updating the backup), will I ever risk re-opening it up and the changes not being there??


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i know that Walt, but simply… if my FW file crashed and I re-open and I see that 2 days of changes are not there… what does that mean and what could I have done to help this?

Does it mean , I never hit SAVE in 2 days? I am sure i have
Does it mean, I never hit preview in browser? I surely did.
Does it mean I never uploaded- of course I did.

I just want to know what I can do as I am working so that if it does crash it will not matter much because I will hit whatever I have to every 15 min to avoid it.

Thanks,

Barry


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would “revert to saved” be the smartest move after a crash (assuming I hit save a lot in the last 2 days)?


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Barry,

This was a pet gripe of mine with FW, I would save, save and save but when FW crashed I lost the saves, sometimes for several days!!! only to learn that FW does not actually write the saves to disc until the FW file is closed ‘as Walt mentions’, this put me into the habit of closing the site file I was working on at the end of each day or when I have to leave the computer for more than an hour or so, then that way I know if I have an issue the saves have been updated to the file on disc… at least until the last time the file was opened, or closed to be more precise.

HTH

On Feb 22, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

i know that Walt, but simply… if my FW file crashed and I re-open and I see that 2 days of changes are not there… what does that mean and what could I have done to help this?

Does it mean , I never hit SAVE in 2 days? I am sure i have
Does it mean, I never hit preview in browser? I surely did.
Does it mean I never uploaded- of course I did.

I just want to know what I can do as I am working so that if it does crash it will not matter much because I will hit whatever I have to every 15 min to avoid it.

Thanks,

Barry


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so I need to start closing the actual file more??

CLose the file only or the whole program???

THen if a crash happens, I can expect at the very least it will go back to the last time I closed the file?

if so, I will do once per day I guess. It is hard to remember changes before the day of the crash.

Thanks much!


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i just closed the FILE only and reopened and looked at details in the finder. I notice the date and time updated to the time I closed.

The backup file’s date and time did not change (maybe you have to exit the entire program)

Either way, I am in better shape now b/c I will use the close file and re-pen as a helper tool.

thanks!

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Barry, I’m gonna take a stab at this. When you save are you using the menu File/Save OR the keyboard Command-S?

Reason I ask is that once I had the same symptoms as you because was in the habit of saving with the keyboard - it turned out that - for some weird reason - my keyboard wasn’t saving with Command-S.


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always file-save

Thanks for letting me know I was not alone.

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Why not try this. Find your file in Finder and view so that you can see the Date Modified column.

Open your file. Make a minor change. Save. Look at the file now in Finder. Has the time changed?

Close the file and reopen the file from the Finder.


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