[Pro] Why does my text overlap

Hi, I am using Freeway Pro 5. I relatively new to Freeway Pro. Whenever I insert HTML boxes and type text into them and then preview them in a browser, I find that if I have multiple text boxes on the page, even though they look fine, they overlap on the browser page, so I have to move the boxes up or down, further away from each other, taking up valuable space on my page. Same applies to photos/graphics boxes. However, I don’t get the warning saying things are overlapped when I upload my website.Can anyone explain this. Am I doing something wrong, maybe a setting?


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However, I don’t get the warning saying things are overlapped when I upload my website.Can anyone explain this.

You are using FW with the CSS button on - this creates layered items that can overlap (unlike CSS off which creates a table based structure where items cannot overlap).

When you preview the page in the browser text can be displayed at a larger size than you see in FW (especially on a PC). How are you sizing your text? Relatively as a % or smaller/larger or as a defined px size.
Defining sizes in px will help.

You say you are using FW5 - but what version? 5.5 introduced the RPL action which goes a long way to dealing with this sort of problem without working in the commonly referred to “box model” method.

David


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Thank you for your reply David.

I am using Freeway pro version 5.4.3. I don’t understand the upgraded/new features of 5.5 yet. I have read it but it makes no sense yet. You have clarified some of it now though.

I am sizing my text using sizes in px.

I’m still not sure what the CSS button is for but my husband says it needs to be on and in most of the freeway moments tutorials it mentions to make sure its on…

So if I turn CSS off, does that mean I can get all text boxes/graphic boxes containg photos closer together on the page without overlapping which causes problems with uploading the page?

I’ll give it a go and see what happens.

Kasia


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Do you have to make sure you have the CSS button off before you start your work on the page?

or is it something I can do/alter to existing work?

I just tried it on existing work on a page and it didn’t work


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No matter how much I read about things, even with explanations, some things are still hard to understand.

I find the freeway moments tutorials fantastic and that is the only reason why I have been able to create my website with all the features it has, in particular the slideshow of photos.

I wish there was a video tutorial for everything in Freeway Pro for those people like me who just can’t get my head around written explanations.

These forums are great though because people explain things well/simply and so I can gladly say I am actually starting to understand. It helps because the next time I read the manual about something it will make better sense after having someone explain it a little bit in the forum


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When you click the CSS button on then anything you create after that point will be a layered item.

You can select an item and have a look in the inspector to see whether it is layered or not (and in there change it from one to the other).

Also layered items have a green border on the FW page and table based blue. (If you have View>Outlines turned on)

Can you get them closer? The real difference is that table based items (blue border) will push others aside when they expand.

Can you post a link to an example page online so that we can better advise how to deal with it.

David


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This page called sizing has given me particular grief. At the bottom of the size chart there is a text box with words: ** AUS sizes approx… When I am working on the page I place the box where I want it to be, however when I check in the browser it is not where I put it, rather it overlaps and is partially in the sizing chart box. So I have to go back and place my text box further down the page away from my size chart. Sometimes it takes me 3-4 goes to find the right spot…frustrating.

http://www.bugboots.com.au/bugbootssizingqu.html


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I have just checked all my pages and some boxes have green borders some blue.

Some of the blue ones I remember having the CSS button on, but they still came out blue. Could this be because they have hyperlinks attached to them, but they are really still layered?


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I know something that has caused me troubles is copying and pasting. It seems to me if you copy a non-CSS item and paste it into a new page or wherever, it will come in as table-based even if you have the blue CSS button turned on.

Just something to watch out for…

Doty

PS. Have you tried making a copy of the page and making sure that every item on that page is CSS? The view > HTML Layout option will help you identify the table elements.

On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Bugboots wrote:

I have just checked all my pages and some boxes have green borders some blue.


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Just on the size of the text, when I write Copyright Bugboots 2010 in the top right hand corner of my page, it looks different in the browser, the 2010 bit goes under the other words and the whole thing is spread over 2 lines even though it shows as on a single line when I created it.
So I go back and just make the box wider.

Sorry to be a pain, but do you know why my font looks different in the browser than on my page?

Eg. I use Helvetica as my main text font. For heading and other highlight headings I use Papyrus but Papyrus doesn’t always come out as it should. Is it because its not a websafe font?

I feel like you have already answered the top question but I guess I still don’t fully understand being a newbie…please don’t get to frustrated


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Could this be because they have hyperlinks attached to them, but they are really still layered?

No!

Why not make everything on that problem page unlayered to see how it works for you.

Remember it is easy to simulate where problem areas might be. View a page in Safari. Go to the View menu and make sure that Zoom Text Only is ticked. Then use Cmd + to increase the text size a couple of notches.

David


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Thanks Doty…that makes sense to me. I have been copying and pasting a lot of my things. I’ll watch out for it from now on.

I’ll do what David said when I find the blue boxes and go to the inspector to turn the layer on.

Thank you


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Neither Helvetica or Papyrus are Web Safe

Helvetica is generally fine but it is NOT ubiquitous and comes in many flavours.

Have you created fall back options in your Font list?

D


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Turning layers on isn’t the answer. You have to be much more careful about your page construction with layers on.

For a simple site like this try it with layers Off.

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Thanks David…

I’m not sure how to create fall back options in my font list nor do I know how to apply them. I shall check my trusty manual and work it out.

I have tried the things you suggested earlier and have definately found having the CSS layer off works much better.
I still don’t fully understand the CSS thing but at least now I have a better understanding of it than before.

I just want to make sure that if I turn my CSS off for some things, will that in any way affect/alter/make worse my websites ability to be found on google or how people will see it on their computers at home and things like that??

I feel like an idiot asking the above question…


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These are referred to in the interface as “Font Sets” so that would be
where to look.

You create them as a comma-delimited list of possible matches to your
desired font. So you might have Helvetica, ‘Helvetica Neue’, Univers,
Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif as your font set for Helvetica.

Note the little-loved typographical atrocity that is Arial shoved well
to the rear, also note that multiple-word names are enclosed in single-
quotes (and be sure to type them as single-quotes on your keyboard,
rather than properly-curled single-quotes or apostrophes, which won’t
have the same effect in code), and the catch-all keyword “sans-serif”
at the end for any machines that simply don’t have any of the
foregoing fonts installed or active.

Walter

On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Bugboots wrote:

I’m not sure how to create fall back options in my font list nor do
I know how to apply them. I shall check my trusty manual and work
it out.


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Thank you Walter…I’ll give it a go.


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I just want to make sure that if I turn my CSS off for some things, will that in any way affect/alter/make worse my websites ability to be found on google or how people will see it on their computers at home and things like that??

It is generally accepted that a table based layout (CSS off) is the ‘old’ way but it doesn’t make your site less Google friendly and certainly can be seen fine with even the oldest browsers.

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Thank you David. You have been extremely patient and most helpful.

It would take me days to try and read through the manual and other ways like googling for answers. Much stress and time wasting searching for answers and still not finding the answer.

I have only just discovered this freeway talk and I don’t know where I would be now without it.

Everybody that replies is so helpful.

I cannot Thank everybody enough tonight for answering all my (probably basic) questions.


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