[Pro] Wireframing?

When it comes to wireframing, what app do you prefer?


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The past year or so I’ve posted about several wireframing apps. Have you searched FWT?

Or try here http://www.creativebloq.com/wireframes/top-wireframing-tools-11121302.

I’m looking forward to seeing what Macaw can offer in this area.

Todd

When it comes to wireframing, what app do you prefer?


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I did, but I didn’t see anything. As luck would have it I’m on the very same page you linked. :slight_smile: Balsamiq looks pretty interesting. Checking out a YouTube video in it now.


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I wasn’t searching the right keywords in FWT. I did find a few of your posts. Thanks.


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Here’s my wireframe app - http://goo.gl/9cV36y

When it comes to wireframing, what app do you prefer?


Ernie Simpson


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Excellent wireframe, Ernie … and I catch the ball and declare hereby Freeway as my preferred wireframe-app.

Or is there anything above the full visual control experience?

Yeahh - naturally, the coding freedom. But even if it comes to re-use the Freeway generated code for a CMS, it should be possible to transfer it quite quickly. I think about Externalize and/or ID2class to accomplish.

And I haven’t tried (such a shame, but my time is low) Walter’s TemplateHelper Action yet. This has, wisely used, for sure a lot of power - especially if it is combined with Ernie’s wireframe.

Cheers

Thomas


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But even if it comes to re-use the Freeway generated code for a CMS, it should be possible to transfer it quite quickly.

With all respect, quickly is not part of that process.


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OOOOppps - yeahh, my mistake - thought about stuff like “frame working” - apologize for this unmotivated input (uahh - wish to erase :-).

Cheers

Thomas


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On 17 Dec 2013, 5:25 am, The Big Erns wrote:

Here’s my wireframe app - http://goo.gl/9cV36y

Ernie Simpson

You’re too funny.


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Just Hi Ernie! Glad to see that I am not alone in using just pen and paper to discuss models with clients…:wink:


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I picked up a copy of the Balsamiq wire framing app today and I’ve been playing around with it for a few hours. It’s perfect for me because quite frankly I can’t draw very well.

I don’t know if this is good or bad, but if I would have used Balsamiq prior to designing my last website, I probably wouldn’t have gone with the layout I ultimately chose. And, I know I would have paid more attention to website semantics.

That may sound strange, but what I found in the short time I’ve used this app is that I tend to focus more on structure and content than design. When I went straight to FWP I tended to focus on design first.


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Especially for semantic work, I recommend a text outline tool… I use
OmniOutliner, which I’ve had for years, to organize my notes. But any
(preferably free) outline text tool can help you organize content
hierarchically to develop your semantic layout.


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So for those of you who are using wireframing, if you’re designing a responsive website do you do a wireframe for both a desktop and a mobile device?


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Let me say it that way:

Usually not :slight_smile: responsive is currently only a plus-service for my clients and a good opportunity to practice what I preach.

BUT - I can recommend it deeply. The point is, that it really makes sense to make yourself and your client clear, how “small” the available space on a mobile device really is.

This could even affect your strategy for mobile devices in general. It is MY opinion, that a “mobile-page” doesn’t require ALL the stuff of the desktop version.

Just as an example:

A pizza restaurant has a huge page on desktop - but on mobile, what more info than address, phone-Nr and a quick to buy “menu-card” do I need? I’m hungry, that’s all.

AND this punctuates the sense of “redirect” before “responsive” for some clients and projects.

Cheers

Thomas

(hope this input makes more sense than the above, btw, I never wireframed but I will have a look into.)


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On 18 Dec 2013, 8:21 am, Thomas Kimmich wrote:

AND this punctuates the sense of “redirect” before “responsive” for some clients and projects.

Advantage with responsive is the maintainance of only one site. A no brainer, tmho. With smart media queries one could ‘present’ the mobile devices just the specific content they are after. Like only the pizza menu and the telephone number, and not the whistles and bells of the full desktop site.

So I would rather say, design in the browser. Responsive, and no wireframe app needed att all.


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Yeah, I agree. Responsive seems like the way to go.


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A responsive site (not a redirect-to-a-mobile-site) is just the normal site with some conditional stylesheets. The key is to start with a semantic outline of the information that the page needs to present, and then figure out which parts to emphasize on desktop versus tablet versus phone. Each page will be identical in its content tree, but you can make visual choices that reflect the individual needs of the users based on the type of browsing they may be doing.

Walter

On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:35 PM, RavenManiac wrote:

So for those of you who are using wireframing, if you’re designing a responsive website do you do a wireframe for both a desktop and a mobile device?


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