Quick blog question

This may have already been answered, but I haven’t been able to find it.

Is it possible to create AND maintain a blog completely in Freeway, using the blog actions, without using Blogger (or some other “blogging service”)? I’ve read through numerous threads detailing how to use Freeway to create a blog that is used on/by Blogger, but that’s not what I’m asking.

Is it possible in Freeway, to have a stand alone “blog page” like you can do in Rapid Weaver?


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Before someone drops another shpeel in here about the how’s and why’s of Freeway design process, I’ll save it and say as of right now there isn’t a way to manage a blog using only Freeway. It doesn’t have the options built into it. There are alternatives to setting up a CMS and such, but as far as a built-in feature…nope.

Using the Blogger service however is really easy and you can use external programs, for instance I use MarsEdit for all my posts.


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Sometime around 13/10/08 (at 20:43 -0400) Buck said:

Is it possible in Freeway, to have a stand alone “blog page” like
you can do in Rapid Weaver?

Not really, not if you want a real blog. RapidWeaver’s blog page is
a ‘sorta’ blog managed by its template structures, one that’s not
actually driven by a database but still approximates the core aspects
of a blog. But ingoring the underlying structural points, the main
difference as far as an end user is concerned is that you write it
locally and then upload.

Freeway lets you make web pages from scratch. This means that if you
want a blog-like structure you have to make it all by hand. Like
RapidWeaver, you do things locally and then upload. Unlike
RapidWeaver it leaves all the design and construction work up to you
rather than driving the site production process from dynamic
templates. There are pros and cons to each approach.

Rocky’s had problems setting up his Freeway-designed Blogger blog and
so far I can’t fathom what’s up. But I’ve done this a few times
myself and it really is extremely simple!

k


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Thanks for the responses. I’m still learning the ropes so to speak. Dan, I’ve checked out some of your tutorials, including your blogger templates. . . very helpful, thank you.


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Back in December of last year, I started working on a drop-in script
to make a blog in Freeway. A real blog, that is, one that could
accept comments and generated archives and served feeds and all that.
I got about 8/10 done, but had a couple of nasty Freeway crashes that
wiped out my document each time.

It’s still up for looking at on <http://scripty.walterdavisstudio.com/
blog> (most of the actual activity is centered around December 2007
or so, a little bit after that).

What I need to do is refactor it to be more friendly to a vanilla
Freeway document. All my usual tricks are on offer – the Wiki-style
templating language, Markdown (naturally), live preview when you’re
editing a post, full-text search, etc. However, as it stands, it
requires a PhD in Freeway to lay out and integrate. That last 20% is
the uphill climb part, and I don’t know yet when I’ll have time to
dig back into it.

Whatever happens, it won’t ever be an “Action-ized” thing you just
plug in and don’t think about. There’s too much baggage required for
that. PHP5/MySQL for a start…

Walter

On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:09 AM, Dan J wrote:

Before someone drops another shpeel in here about the how’s and
why’s of Freeway design process, I’ll save it and say as of right
now there isn’t a way to manage a blog using only Freeway. It
doesn’t have the options built into it. There are alternatives to
setting up a CMS and such, but as far as a built-in feature…nope.

Using the Blogger service however is really easy and you can use
external programs, for instance I use MarsEdit for all my posts.


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Once I create my blog template and paste the code into blogger, which is the best way to add the “blog” to my existing website? I’m trying to make the transition as seamless as possible so that it appears that you’ve never left my original website. I’ve thought of a couple of options:

  1. Just incorporate the link to the blog page within my existing site and make sure that I have plenty of links back to the original sight incorporated into the blog page.

  2. Someone in this forum mentioned the use of a “i-Frame” (I think???)

Does anyone have any other suggestions, or could you please elaborate further on the i-Frame possibility?


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I’d just make them look the same and just transition back and forth through links. One is going to have the Blogspot bar at the top, but I think you can turn that off somehow in the options now without a hack.

I vote to just have the links go back and forth, seems easier than an i-frame which has the potential to be goofy at times.


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I just finished getting the new blog up and running:

http://ccmville.blogspot.com/

I’m very pleased with the results, but did encounter two issues that I have not been able to resolve. They’re not “deal breakers” but it would be nice to know if there is a solution:

  1. I’ve lost my rollover actions on the links at the top of the page (New Here, The 3 C’s, Resources, Blog, Give). Thankfully the links still work, but it would be nice to have the same mouseover and click actions that the original site pages do.

  2. I’ve poured over the various settings at blogger, but have not been able to find an option that enables me to turn off the Blogspot bar at the top. If anybody has been able to successfully pull that off, let me know.

All the advice, tutorials, and screencasts have been greatly appreciated - thanks!


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