RE: [Pro] Making a template for others to use

I have 5 or 6 fellow employees that want to edit and maintain their portion of the website. Is it best to offer them a template or give them freeway with implicit instructions on what to touch and not touch?

To be blunt, if you give someone powerful tools and instructions on what not to do they will eventually screw something up totally. Also, the cost of 5 or 6 copies of Freeway (not to be forgotten!) might be a budget problem.

Much better to use something like WebYep to make editable areas to an otherwise bullet-proof layout. Then they visit the site, log in with a name and password, and edit their pages to their hearts’ content. All with their web browsers.

The WebYep system lives on your web server. It is simple; it requires no installation to speak of, just copying to your site and then editing one text file to set up the login name and password. Cost: €29 from Objective Development - WebYep

The WebYep action suite, by our very own Max, makes it easy to set up editable WebYep things in your Freeway pages. This is installed on your Mac just like any other Freeway action. Cost: £20 from http://www.max-izzat.co.uk/

The server must support PHP. This isn’t necessarily available by default on a Windows server, but it can normally be added if someone there has the right level of access and understanding.

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WebYep sounds great. I checked out the demo and it looked very easy and straightforward. Then I looked at the tutorial and got confused. In the tutorial, the demo uses rapid weaver to create the template. The screens looked foreign and not like freeway at all. Since I’ll be using freeway, is there a step-by-step tutorial showing how to do this is freeway. My html ability is weak, so I’m hoping there’s not too much of that involved.


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Hi Joe,
I’d strongly suggest you take a look at Max’s manual for his WebYep
actions at;
http://www.max-izzat.co.uk/actions.html

Not only is it a great read but it will explain how the CMS is
integrated into the Freeway workflow. You ‘could’ integrate WebYep
into your Freeway site without using the actions but you’ll find
things a lot, lot easier to do with them - especially if you aren’t
happy handling markup code.
Regards,
Tim.

On 25 Mar 2010, at 14:00, JoeCoffee wrote:

Since I’ll be using freeway, is there a step-by-step tutorial
showing how to do this is freeway.

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Don’t forget in my ScreenCast Store we’re building an entire website from a blank FW document into a final website project for a real client and a real organization using Freeway and WebYep. The first episode is about installation and I use Max’s actions throughout the screencast to build the website all in Freeway.

If you’re looking to check that out, visit my site and click Store to read more about each episode. They roughly are an hour long each, so it’s worth it if you’re interested.


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… and I purchased Dan`s WebYep episodes 1-4 and they are really great and helpful - just to recommend (think about the boxmodel episode too).

By the way Dan … I tried several times to get in touch with you over your website, but neither with or without captcha I got no chance to send one line to you.

What I`m doing wrong here?

Greetz from Germany

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The captcha is quite frustrating and removed all together. You should be able to contact me now via the website. I’m in the middle of a new design, so there was probably something I enabled or disabled throughout the process.

You can always drop a message here to as I am here frequently both answering questions and learning from other users.


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I am just in the process of developing a site and needed a few pages accessible to others to edit. Webyep looks a good solution but the instructions are a nightmare - all over the place it seems and related principally to Dreamweaver as far as I see. I will follow up the advice in the thread and get Max’s Actions, but am I missing something? Like a single, continuous, clearly written in English manual for using Webyep?


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Hi Colin
I have made several sites using freeway and WebYep. It is a lot easier
to use than might appear. Max’s actions are superb. I would be stuck
without the two products. Plus Max is incredibly helpful. A few things
to watch:
1 (the biggest issue): Will the site be hosted on a Linux or Windows
server? WebYep is very happy on Linux (or most Unix based servers in
fact) but on a Windows server it can be very troublesome. This appears
to be due to Linux using Apache Server, unlike Windows, which uses IIS.
Get the site on a Linux Server if posible.
2: Usually, when a site is viewed in a browser, any content inserted
using webyep looks like a just a few dots-this is due to Freeway
creating a little snippet of code which adds a styling of
‘font-size=1px’. When a webyep item is created in Freeway, but has no
content (because, after all, the cms will handle that), that ‘1px’
style can result iin the content of the webyep item looking like a few
dots-because the font size is only 1px! My solution is to double click
inside the item in Freeway and press spacebar. This gives the item some
content, (which won’t show up in the html output) and font sizes will be
correct when webyep is used to add something.

To see what Webyep can do along with Freeway, here are three sites done
with them:
www.victimsupportjersey.com
www.ghcjersey.com
www.cornthwaiteandco.com.

All three clients love webyep.

I have found Objective Development very responsive to requests for
assistance: here’s a link to a thread I started that shows this (and
also may help with things if you are going to host on a wondows server):
http://forums.obdev.at/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5707

Martin

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I am just in the process of developing a site and needed a few pages accessible to others to edit. Webyep looks a good solution but the instructions are a nightmare - all over the place it seems and related principally to Dreamweaver as far as I see. I will follow up the advice in the thread and get Max’s Actions, but am I missing something? Like a single, continuous, clearly written in English manual for using Webyep?


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There is also a Manual that comes with Max’s Web Yep actions which will help a lot.

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