These seem so similar in the manner of building them yet whilst Carousel will allow the Webyep action being attached to it Fader will not. Is this just the way it is and for a fading slide show with a CMS I would have to turn to another method?
Richard
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Hi Richard,
I long thought about your post and am not sure what really to answer.
It is probably more a question of how you or your clients can deal with code (html/css). I tried a few things that all worked but all of them have slightly different pros and cons:
Pro
Works brillant and is easy to set up.
Con
You have to talk with your client about the amount of panes you like to share cause this is in fact finally your job to do within Freeway’s environment.
Pro
Desktop Application (Win/Mac).
Con
Is your client able to work with it and is he finally able to throw that in a RichText Element, correcting the paths and transmit the data to the host via ftp? The app is in a free version but get rid of some advertisers client need to purchase a version.
Pro
Extendable (more or less - just run a raw version this morning)
Con
The handling is a bit circuitous actually - not intuitive and it needs a bit of training to add/change things.
To me, Nivo as an external version is the most promising one cause it offers in fact the “extending feature”.
All the three described “versions” you can find on my “long and all-time” WebYep Template Project on:
http://www.test.q-ring.de/index.php
The Index page has Walter’s Carousel with RichText Elements on each pane, the others can be found on “Testings”. The entire content btw. is add via WebYep except of the bg-images (of course) but they could be changed via css - so very close to a full template.
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Thomas
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OK This is interesting Thomas and thanks for your example and thoughts.
Initially overly and pleasantly distracted by the content I turned my thoughts to the function. Carousel + Webyep I have working versions of and I think these are as easy for the site owner as any other Webyep element. Also I have made editable fading slide shows with a target-show-hide-layer /sequence-timer combo ( following the lead given some time back by pixelarte). Again easy for the site owner - an admin page is provided for the images to be uploaded to rather then them being stacked on the public page.
But Wow and Nivo? I have both of these working on sites - but not editable in the browser. But certainly with Wow’s desktop app anyone could build and edit a slider/fader and upload it with the WOW ftp client to a folder on the server. But how did you get it to be placed? I can see one method would be to upload it to its own dedicated folder and is visible on the site via an iFrame (which would also happily stop it clashing with protaculous/scripty stuff )
Nivo is harder for me to grasp. I am guessing images could be uploaded from an admin page via Webyep to a folder on the server? But then the path to these images need to be defined. Now this last has to be done through an HTML markup item on the Freewaypage. Can this Markup item be a Richtext webyep item? If yes then great but I can see that the site owner will need strict guidance as I know from experience that a bad name, space or a misplaced comma and the whole thing breaks.
Also, on you sample can Nivo transitions be also edited via Webyep? If so how is this accomplished?
I foresee some hours of experiments ahead! Especially as my niveau with Nivo has not yet got to arrows and nav tabs.
Also, as an extra thought could you (or Max or Softpress) marry Showcase with Webyep?
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Hi Richard,
well I’m not a code-priest so am not licensed to do any weddings at all - but I’d like to see a much bigger one than this.
Also, as an extra thought could you (or Max or Softpress) marry Showcase with Webyep?
The initial problem is on how to connect those both to have the building facility (Showcase for everyone?) and the implementing.
The key on my entire work with WebYep is a proper set-up of RichText Editor in my case TinyMCE. If you shut-off the default
-Tag wrapping of Tiny, you can use the combination RichText-Element with the SEO Script inserting part (which I begged Max to build and he did) to have something nearly the same than the Freeway combi of “Page HTML-markup” (the SEO script area) and a MarkUp-item (should be better said crowbar) the RichText Element and its HTML area. Another thing I got running is an inbuilt image-manager that allows to upload images just in place.
This all works pretty nice on the bespoken stuff as well on the disqus part or the sublime video.
Of course, the caveat is, that you deal with code - yes in its nature and that is what I meant with training and proper explanations to the user.
It’s not good style to advertise here some stuff-selling and please don’t take me wrong, but DenimWashed Template and its parts is a technology I collected during months and I probably sell this either in parts or as a complete system (… probably). So even overtaking my pre-configured opt-folder, adjusting 3 lines of code would enable you to do pretty much the same than DenimWashed offers within minutes, assumed your Host allows you the read/write stuff automatically (CHMOD 755 I guess min.).
And the other key-thinking is to separate framework (HTML) and design (CSS). So Freeway is for me a brillant base to build up the Framework, but the really view of the page is later steered by the different css-sheets. So in summary as less as possible actions as much as possible modules (NIVO, DISQUS, PHP based solutions like search-facility, password-protection …).
Well in brief that’s what I learned/collected the last months (even years) - to get WebYep to what it is:
The coolest PHP based CMS system on planet - and the so called big-players like EE, Wordpress, Joomla are doing pretty much the same: Collecting modules.
I have to make some more Nivo tests and will probably make a screencast out of it one day (uahhh - promises).
Cheers
Thomas
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ohhh Richard,
the most important thing I forgot:
Yes - the behavior of NIVO is adjustable but it has to be done within the jquery.nivo.slider.js.
I think that the recommended parts could also be taken within the script-inserter of the SEO bar (so in the before head area of the page).
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Hi Thomas
I have been testing something out today where by I am inserting a divs content into another div on another page… a bit like an iframe but without all the iframe junk and the other parts of the page that I don’t want… now I would imagine this could be used with with webyep and any jQuery carousel Obviously this is client side not server side function but its much nicer than an iframe plus I can choose to target div with a class rather than an id and have multiple versions of the same thing on a page if I wished, anyway I will send you over my experiments to see if you can make use of it. with a carousel etc.
speak soon max
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…I am inserting a divs content into another div on another page… a bit like an iframe but without all the iframe junk…
That sounds pretty cool Max.
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