Selectable text

On this page built with Freeway 6 and designed Inline, why is the text on the left selectable, but the text on the right isn’t?
http://www.oscarwildeinamerica.org/lecture-tour/0302-rockford.html

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You have floating issues - the item “article id=item5” follows two floated
items without first clearing the floats, thus creating an oversize item
that covers parts of the other two. You can fix it by setting “item5” to
clear:both.

I also think you should rethink your html5 item strategy - sections start a
new section, so wrapping a section element inside of a section element is
excessive. Article elements should not break up related content, but mark
discrete and unrelated content - like different articles in a magazine.

On Saturday, February 1, 2014, John Cooper email@hidden wrote:

On this page built with Freeway 6 and designed Inline, why is the text on
the left selectable, but the text on the right isn’t?
http://www.oscarwildeinamerica.org/lecture-tour/0302-rockford.html

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Good advice Ern. Point two well taken.

Trouble is I don’t know what ‘clearing the floats’ means, and how to set to clear both


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Trouble is I don’t know what ‘clearing the floats’ means, and how to set
to clear both

Think of inline items as a stream of items… exactly like letters in a line
of text. Letters keep their place, they keep their order. Floats are a way
for the browser to affect that order visually. When you change, add, delete
letters in the middle of a sentence, it only affects those letters that
come downstream or after the point of change. Floating inline or
relatively positioned items creates a downstream effect which must be
limited or cleared… to clear a left float requires a left clear, and a
right a right. You can also create a clear for both.

Let me introduce you to the Inspector… The clear control for a selected
element can be found in the Freeway Pro Inspector under the General Pane,
after the control for Color and Overflow.


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Ah! Starting to make sense.

Back to the Item Strategy. I converted this site from HTML 4 and the boxes never had Section/Article tags before—so it’s a bit confused. Plus the item names are a mess: Item5 etc. so I’ll go back in and clear all that up.

Two questions arise:

  1. On the point that Article elements should not break up related content—what if I want to break up related content for graphical reasons (e.g. to put a line around a box). In that case should I give the enclose boxes just a HTML rage instead of Article?

  2. I didn’t even know what the clear option was for! I have reconstructed the whole site without one clear. Although I had seen boxes behave like their predecessors I had just manipulated the arrangement. So in summary: a clear is required only when a succeeding item is not floated the same way, and the setting goes on the succeeding item?


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Floats can seem like a very alien concept because their logic is not
obvious - however, they are a completely man-made thing so they can be
understood. Mostly.

Here is a basic discussion that may help -

Freeway Pro 6 lets you designate whether an HTML Item (box) is a div
(default) or any one of several HTML5 structures (section, article, header,
etc). As far as I know, you can only identify an html box as an html5 item
by means of the FWP Inspector, so my advice will be to leave all html items
as the default div structure unless you are certain that whatever you’re
switching it to is the right thing - structurally, there is no penalty for
that. The penalty will come when you have sectioning elements that are
misused, garbling the semantic structure of your page - no one but search
engines (and me) would notice, but that will be bad enough.

Another explanation for the structures I’m talking about is if you’ve been
using one of my inline examples, like the updated basic starter - something
for which I owe a lot of people an apology. The last update of it added
more complexity than “basic” really implies. My desire has been to push
people to the front of the learning curve, but I’ve not been able to
provide the support this community needs for such a push. Yet I am
satisfied with every Freewayer who tries. Anyway, the examples I post are
meant to be learning structures - not actual “templates” to be used in the
construction of websites. However, if someone chooses to, they could be
used that way… but caution is advised.


Ernie Simpson

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:02 AM, John Cooper email@hidden wrote:

Ah! Starting to make sense.

Back to the Item Strategy. I converted this site from HTML 4 and the boxes
never had Section/Article tags before—so it’s a bit confused. Plus the item
names are a mess: Item5 etc. so I’ll go back in and clear all that up.

Two questions arise:

  1. On the point that Article elements should not break up related
    content—what if I want to break up related content for graphical reasons
    (e.g. to put a line around a box). In that case should I give the enclose
    boxes just a HTML rage instead of Article?

  2. I didn’t even know what the clear option was for! I have reconstructed
    the whole site without one clear. Although I had seen boxes behave like
    their predecessors I had just manipulated the arrangement. So in summary: a
    clear is required only when a succeeding item is not floated the same way,
    and the setting goes on the succeeding item?


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Many thanks Ern, and may I say the template has been instrumental in my understanding inline construction. I now consider the method to be superior to the traditional layout, not only for logical design, but, crucially, for much easier maintenance and updates.


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