Good afternoon,
I had a new complaint with my site.
Very slow to upload. I know in a previous thread some one mentioned reducing size etc.
How can I do this? And are there any other things I can do to speed up my site as well as my clients??
Thank you very much! I am very disturbed by this
Julie
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I normally run my sites (if I think they’re going to be big and cause problems) through this site which gives some very good readings and advice on shrinking sites.
I put your grassroots site (I assume this is the site you have speed issues with) through and there are areas you could work on but to be honest it didn’t seem that slow to me. Is this the site you have had comments on?
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On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:51, Julie wrote:
Good afternoon,
I had a new complaint with my site.
Very slow to upload. I know in a previous thread some one mentioned reducing size etc.
How can I do this? And are there any other things I can do to speed up my site as well as my clients??Thank you very much! I am very disturbed by this
Julie
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Julie,
A couple of things I did notice about the Grass Roots site that would enhance/improve it:
The page urls need to be looked at - try making your url names like this. This can be done in the inspector panel - when you have put in the title for the page, the url has been set and needs to be changed.
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/all-about-grass-roots.html
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/why-choose-grass-roots.html
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/communication-tools.html
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/web-hosting.html
http://www.grassrootsweb.net/grass-roots-web-design.html
Naming your page urls correctly will help in search engines
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On 16 Jul 2010, at 21:51, Julie wrote:
Good afternoon,
I had a new complaint with my site.
Very slow to upload. I know in a previous thread some one mentioned reducing size etc.
How can I do this? And are there any other things I can do to speed up my site as well as my clients??Thank you very much! I am very disturbed by this
Julie
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Very slow to upload
I assume you mean download
As I have said on numerous occasions your bg images are larger than they need to be
backgroundv1.jpg is 308k and grungebkgd.gif 265k
This page uses a resized version of your bg image - http://www.deltadzine.net/grw/
and I will be surprised if you can see a quality difference between the two - and it is a third of the file size of yours!
Also I am a bit curious as why you are resizing the bg image with the page - it just distorts it.
But this page shouldn’t be that slow as it still weighs in at less than 1Mb
But all your images should be optimised to get their size down - a bg image doesn’t need to be great quality anyway. Keep the larger filesizes/better quality images for the bits that matter.
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I know you have. I thought I had done ok with that - but I guess not.
I guess - what is the best way to save them smaller and more efficiantly? I guess I am not grasping that.
what do you mean by:
Also I am a bit curious as why you are resizing the bg image with the page - it just distorts it.
I have made it longer for different pages because some of the pages need to be longer for more info - if that is what you are talking about…
I do not know what kind of computer this potential client has - but he said he got real fustrated and stopped looking. that concerns me. How many others have had that issue?
thank you
J
On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:07 PM, DeltaDave wrote:
Very slow to upload
I assume you mean download
As I have said on numerous occasions your bg images are larger than they need to be
backgroundv1.jpg is 308k and grungebkgd.gif 265k
This page uses a resized version of your bg image - http://www.deltadzine.net/grw/
and I will be surprised if you can see a quality difference between the two - and it is a third of the file size of yours!
Also I am a bit curious as why you are resizing the bg image with the page - it just distorts it.
But this page shouldn’t be that slow as it still weighs in at less than 1Mb
But all your images should be optimised to get their size down - a bg image doesn’t need to be great quality anyway. Keep the larger filesizes/better quality images for the bits that matter.
David
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Also I am a bit curious as why you are resizing the bg image with the page - it just distorts it.
If you like at my example http://www.deltadzine.net/grw/
It has the same bg proportional action and if you resize the window you see the distortion.
I have made it longer for different pages because some of the pages need to be longer for more info - if that is what you are talking about…
No I am not talking about grungebkgd
what is the best way to save them smaller and more efficiantly? I guess I am not grasping that
Open the bg files in an image editor (Preview will do it) Tools>Adjust size. Leave the width and height alone but adjust the resolution to 72pixels/inch then do a Save As. Call it something like background_new.jpg and adjust the Quality slider to reduce the file size. Once you have taken it down a good bit then preview it using your browser. File>Open File and compare the quality with what you are using already. Once you are happy reselect it in the FW Inspector.
This will apply to your background images that FW DOES NOT optimise for you. Other images on your pages can be adjusted using the Quality setting in the Inspector.
GIFs are a bit more tricky and should really be done in PS where you can see the different output sizes and how they look in comparison to each other.
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The page that doesn’t work for me is http://www.grassrootsweb.net/Blog/2010/June/whyshouldyouchoo.html
The grungemaster-bkgd.gif doesn’t load at all!
And no posts.
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Well that’s not good. I will check it out. Thank you for the other directions I will work on the green now.
I have that as the action full background… Would that make a difference?
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The page that doesn’t work for me is http://www.grassrootsweb.net/Blog/2010/June/whyshouldyouchoo.html
The grungemaster-bkgd.gif doesn’t load at all!
And no posts.
D
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I dont think you need an action - just a normal bg image!
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Just use the image as normal background image - look in the inspectors third tab - you shouldn’t need an action.
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On 17 Jul 2010, at 02:16, Julie wrote:
Well that’s not good. I will check it out. Thank you for the other directions I will work on the green now.
I have that as the action full background… Would that make a difference?
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The page that doesn’t work for me is http://www.grassrootsweb.net/Blog/2010/June/whyshouldyouchoo.html
The grungemaster-bkgd.gif doesn’t load at all!
And no posts.
D
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I looked at my file and it is all there- i dont get it. sorry.
If you have any ideas - I would love to hear them
J
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:09 PM, DeltaDave wrote:
The page that doesn’t work for me is http://www.grassrootsweb.net/Blog/2010/June/whyshouldyouchoo.html
The grungemaster-bkgd.gif doesn’t load at all!
And no posts.
D
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OK I followed your directions and it went down to 24k - but small - so i have put the action back other wise it is tiled or not seen at all.
but it seems to be quicker -
FYI I just checked = the blog is there.
J
On Jul 16, 2010, at 9:06 PM, DeltaDave wrote:
Also I am a bit curious as why you are resizing the bg image with the page - it just distorts it.
If you like at my example http://www.deltadzine.net/grw/
It has the same bg proportional action and if you resize the window you see the distortion.
I have made it longer for different pages because some of the pages need to be longer for more info - if that is what you are talking about…
No I am not talking about grungebkgd
what is the best way to save them smaller and more efficiantly? I guess I am not grasping that
Open the bg files in an image editor (Preview will do it) Tools>Adjust size. Leave the width and height alone but adjust the resolution to 72pixels/inch then do a Save As. Call it something like background_new.jpg and adjust the Quality slider to reduce the file size. Once you have taken it down a good bit then preview it using your browser. File>Open File and compare the quality with what you are using already. Once you are happy reselect it in the FW Inspector.
This will apply to your background images that FW DOES NOT optimise for you. Other images on your pages can be adjusted using the Quality setting in the Inspector.
GIFs are a bit more tricky and should really be done in PS where you can see the different output sizes and how they look in comparison to each other.
D
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OK I followed your directions and it went down to 24k
If the dimensions have changed it is because you changed them in the width and height sections of the dialogue. I said:
Tools>Adjust size. LEAVE THE WIDTH AND HEIGHT ALONE! but adjust the resolution to 72pixels/inch then do a Save As. Call it something like background_new.jpg and adjust the Quality slider to reduce the file size.
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seriously - i did not change them i changed the pixels to 72 and it reduced the size - through preview.
LOoking at it again - the size measurements are the same - it reduced the size on the screen - when I changed it to 72 -
seriously -
On Jul 17, 2010, at 7:40 AM, DeltaDave wrote:
OK I followed your directions and it went down to 24k
If the dimensions have changed it is because you changed them in the width and height sections of the dialogue. I said:
Tools>Adjust size. LEAVE THE WIDTH AND HEIGHT ALONE! but adjust the resolution to 72pixels/inch then do a Save As. Call it something like background_new.jpg and adjust the Quality slider to reduce the file size.
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On 17 Jul 2010, at 00:32, Nathan Garner wrote:
I put your grassroots site (I assume this is the site you have
speed issues with) through …Nathan Garner
Thanks for the analyser, but on my (one) testpage all I got was zeros:
Object type Size (bytes)
HTML: 0 0.00
HTML Images: 0
CSS Images: 0
Total Images: 0
Javascript: 0
strange, there were images on it too.
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and all the words are HTML
On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Omar KN wrote:
On 17 Jul 2010, at 00:32, Nathan Garner wrote:
I put your grassroots site (I assume this is the site you have speed issues with) through …
Nathan Garner
Thanks for the analyser, but on my (one) testpage all I got was zeros:
Object type Size (bytes)
HTML: 0 0.00
HTML Images: 0
CSS Images: 0
Total Images: 0
Javascript: 0strange, there were images on it too.
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seriously - i did not change them i changed the pixels to 72 and it reduced the size - through preview.
Did you reselect the new file in the Inspector in FW?
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I selected the new picture in the inspector - and it was small 6x4 I think the measurements were in preview?
so it was in the center behind the grunge - and would have to be tiled to get the full screen/
I did not like that - so I used the full background action - so that it uploaded smaller but correct look - for now.
On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:00 AM, DeltaDave wrote:
seriously - i did not change them i changed the pixels to 72 and it reduced the size - through preview.
Did you reselect the new file in the Inspector in FW?
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What url did you use Omar?
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On 17 Jul 2010, at 13:20, Omar KN wrote:
On 17 Jul 2010, at 00:32, Nathan Garner wrote:
I put your grassroots site (I assume this is the site you have speed issues with) through …
Nathan Garner
Thanks for the analyser, but on my (one) testpage all I got was zeros:
Object type Size (bytes)
HTML: 0 0.00
HTML Images: 0
CSS Images: 0
Total Images: 0
Javascript: 0strange, there were images on it too.
bw, Omar
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Rather than using the action, I would just make an image the size of your page in Photoshop, export it using Save for Web, and compress the living daylights out of it. As a background, you want it to have extremely limited detail anyway, so compression can’t take anything away from it. Then place the image in the Inspector, and choose centered or whatever would place it under your page layout, and be sure to turn off tiling altogether.
Another trick is to use a tiling image for the center of the page, and a separate static image for the top and bottom of the page. Look at the pages in this (FreewayTalk) site using the Web Inspector in Safari for one example of that technique. The round-rect around the messages area is done that way.
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