Small graphics ...

Hello again,

Trying to put a graphic up in a page. Here’s the problem …

  1. I produce a JPEG/GIF 500 pixels by 300 pixels

  2. It is saved for web and put in my GFX folder.

  3. I select ‘Graphic’ on the menu draw a box.

  4. I select ‘Insert’ from the drop-down menu and select the file that I want.

  5. It drops into the box but far smaller than 500 pixels by 300 pixels.

Yes, the box I draw is bigger than 500 x 300 so I know the graphic is not at fault. I normally drag the item around and size the box afterwards. When I preview, the graphic is miniscule … the original has been checked and it 500 pixels by 300 pixels.

Any ideas why this should happen?

Thanks for your help …


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On 2 Feb. 2008, 7:25 am, snaps042 wrote:

  1. I select ‘Insert’ from the drop-down menu and select the file that I want.

Sounds like your putting a graphic object inside a graphic object. After you place your graphic object on the page, click inside it and try using Import from the file menu instead.


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chuckamuck,

Sadly, that doesn’t work. I’m working on Freeway 4 Express.

Once I draw my ‘Graphic’ (rectangle) box, I click inside it and the menu options I get are:

Extended
Hyperkink
Anchor
Lock
Bring To Front
Send To Back
Bring Foward
Send Backward
Duplicate

Import does not exist … any other clues?

Thanks again.


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On 2 Feb 2008, at 08:25, snaps042 wrote:

  1. I select ‘Graphic’ on the menu draw a box.

  2. I select ‘Insert’ from the drop-down menu and select the file
    that I want.

Select the box, don’t click inside it. Then go ‘Import’ from the
‘File’ menu. Or hit Apple-E.

best wishes

Paul Bradforth

http://www.paulbradforth.com


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Paul,

That’s exactly what I do … no joy. The JPEG is still undersized. GIFs work but not the same definition.

Thanks again.


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Have you tried just dragging the graphic file from the Finder onto the page.

FW then creates the container for you.

David


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Sometime around 2/2/08 (at 03:25 -0500) snaps042 said:

  1. I select ‘Insert’ from the drop-down menu and select the file that I want.

  2. It drops into the box but far smaller than 500 pixels by 300 pixels.

The graphic you are importing has a pixel-per-inch setting higher
than the normal so-called screen resolution setting. Freeway thinks
in DTP terms in many ways, and one of those ways is to pay attention
to ppi settings for imported images and scale the image accordingly
as it arrives on the page.

This is actually a very useful thing, although it can confuse people
when they’re not expecting it. If I have images I’ve used in print
projects those will (if I’ve been even remotely professional about my
work) have a defined resolution suited to print output.

Take the common rule-of-thumb resolution for print; 300ppi. That says
that the image should fit 300 of its pixels within one inch on the
printed page. This ensures that the individual pixels are not
discernable, so the result looks like a nice, continuous tone image.

If that image consists of 900x600 pixels then it will print as a 3
inch by 2 inch image. (If I scale it up to take more space on the
page I also scale up the pixel grid, giving me a lower final output
resolution.)

If I place that onto a page in Freeway, it will arrive with the same
default, starting-scale dimensions as it did in my print layout. With
the above example, it will be a virtual 3x2 inch image.

That image would be able to be scaled up to around 400% (over 6
virtual inches across), or precisely 900 pixels in the page, before
you ‘ran out of pixels’ - enlarged it to the point where there were
no more available pixels for the size and the result started to
become lower than screen resolution.

See, this is all a function of Freeway’s ability to scale graphics in
the layout in a normal DTP-like manner. Just scale the image up using
the keyboard shortcuts (from the Item > Graphic set of options) or
the Transform dialog.

Or open your image in Photoshop, choose Image > Image Size, UNcheck
the Resample Image checkbox, then set the pixels per inch value to
72. Click OK, save, and import your image to Freeway.

(BTW, I use “ppi” here because we’re talking about pixel-based
images. The only time that “dpi” should be used is when referring to
printed output and the resolution of the dots that are made on the
substrate, whether laser, inkjet or whatever. Remember, ppi is for
pixels, dpi is for printed dots. Here endeth the lesson. :slight_smile:

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Our Keith,

Lesson learnt. I hold up my hands and praise Freeway and those who know SO much more than me!

Thank you so very much for explaining all of that. Most kind of you to take the time and write it all down in plain English.

I’ll print it out and keep it as a reference …


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Sometime around 2/2/08 (at 03:25 -0500) snaps042 said:

  1. I produce a JPEG/GIF 500 pixels by 300 pixels

  2. It is saved for web and put in my GFX folder.

By the way… if you’re preparing images for use in Freeway then
DON’T use Save For Web or any other process that creates JPEG files.

Freeway will optimise the images in your layout as part of the output
process, creating JPEGs, GIFs or whatever from the pictures in your
pages.

JPEG is a lossy image format; every single time it is applied, it
throws away data from your images. This means that you lose data
(damaging the image’s appearance) when you Save For Web from
Photoshop, then you lose data when Freeway outputs a JPEG as well.

If you save as a TIFF or PSD or PNG you lose no data, and Freeway
will take care of the web optimising for you. (No, it won’t try to
output a PNG unless you specifically as for it, don’t worry!)

You CAN import to Freeway as pass-through. That tells Freeway to do
nothing more than pass along the original graphic. If you have
pre-prepared JPEGs that are exactly as you want, this is a good
option. BUT it means you can’t scale, crop or combine with other
items in your layout. I find this far too restrictive, so it is a
feature that I virtualy never use.

  1. It drops into the box but far smaller than 500 pixels by 300 pixels.

Quick fix: make your box 500x300 pixels and choose Item > Graphic >
Scale To Box. :slight_smile:

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On 2 Feb 2008, at 11:31, Keith Martin wrote:

If you save as a TIFF or PSD or PNG you lose no data, and Freeway
will take care of the web optimising for you. (No, it won’t try to
output a PNG unless you specifically as for it, don’t worry!)

Just to make it clear, Freeway 4 Express will import PNG formats
happily. TIFF and PSD only work for Pro users.

Cheers

Heather


“Freeway - Web Design for All”


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Sometime around 2/2/08 (at 11:44 +0000) Heather Kavanagh said:

Freeway 4 Express will import PNG formats
happily. TIFF and PSD only work for Pro users.

Thanks for the clarification Heather! I meant to type that… but
somehow didn’t. Doh!

And Stuart, I’m glad I could help. :slight_smile:

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