I am just beginning to build this site http://www.richard-lowther.com/cascades/
I have a carousel and also some anchors. When I add in the smooth scroll action clicking on a carousel button moves the page up - not to the anchor lower down the page but seemingly using the buttons as the anchor. Can anyone see what I have done?
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The SmoothScroll action has hijacked your Carousel’s links. You’re going to have to choose one or the other, I’m afraid. Either redesign your Carousel to just be sections of the page that you smooth scroll to, or get rid of SmoothScroll and keep the Carousel.
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That’s disappointing! Can I ask why they won’t work together? I know I am going to be baffled and bewildered by the answer but willing to try to understand.
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The SmoothScroll sets up its effect before the page loads, and the
Carousel sets its up after the page loads. Once the SmoothScroll
Action has applied its link behaviors, it “owns” those links, and
doesn’t allow any further action to happen when you click them.
If I were to rewrite the Action so the two were aware of one another,
I might be able to let you ignore clicks on Carousel links. I wrote
them independent of one another (and the SmoothScroll largely as a ten
minute exercise in how quickly I could put a ‘Scripty’ Action
together) so I didn’t really think about anyone wanting to use them
together.
Personally, when I find more than one style of wizzy effect on a page,
I find it a little confusing as a user. If it were me, I would stick
to one metaphor per page for non-standard scrolling.
Walter
On May 15, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Richard Lowther wrote:
That’s disappointing! Can I ask why they won’t work together? I
know I am going to be baffled and bewildered by the answer but
willing to try to understand.Richard
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Personally, when I find more than one style of wizzy effect on a page,
I find it a little confusing as a user. If it were me, I would stick
to one metaphor per page for non-standard scrolling.
Thanks for the info. I know what you are saying but I think you are being hard on yourself Walter to call these elegantly smooth and gentle actions as wizzy. I have dropped the smooth scroll for now and will reconsider.
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smooth scrolling issue Walter do you still have that code in which created, I tried to create java code which can work to scroll smooth between anchors
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There is a SmoothScroll Action now, and it is guaranteed not to mess
with Carousel controls at all. I have tested it here.
Be sure to download the latest SmoothScroll and the latest Carousel,
remove both Action files from your Actions folder before adding the
new ones, and test the combination in a new and otherwise empty
document while all other documents are closed.
Updating bundle Actions is a bit more of a pain than it should be, but
here’s the Cliff’s Notes:
Quit Freeway.
Locate your Actions folder. In a default installation, it will be
here: /Users/[you]/Library/Application Support/Freeway 5/Actions/General
Locate the Actions you need to replace/update.
SmoothScroll.fwactionb and Protaculous.fwactionb, and delete them.
Move them to the trash and empty the trash.
Drag the new versions into place within your Actions folder.
On any document where you have used these Actions in the past, you
can try using them again directly and see if you have any trouble. If
you still do, then you have to do the next (last) step:
Locate every instance of the Carousel, Carousel Pane, Carousel Tab,
Carousel Button, etc. that you have used in the entire document.
Remove the Actions from any elements they are attached to. Publish
once. Now apply them again, which should include the new version in
your document, rather than the older cached version that was still
causing you grief.
The reason for all of this madness is because Freeway is helpful. Each
time you use an Action, it caches the Action file within the document
where you have used it. This works perfectly for simple Actions, since
they are only plain text files after all. But the bundle Actions, like
any of my Scripty Actions, are really many many files bundled together
in a complex folder structure, rather than single simple files. As a
result, the cacheing system caches the Action file, but none of the
support files or the folder structure that tells the system to treat
them as a single element. When you update, you can end up in a
situation where the cached Action file from the document is being used
in conjunction with newer support files from the bundle, and that
becomes an unholy mess that will either not run at all, or will cause
errors that the developer cannot reproduce.
Walter
On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:05 PM, stuart wrote:
smooth scrolling issue Walter do you still have that code in which
created, I tried to create java code which can work to scroll smooth
between anchorsStu
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Walter,
Would doing so interfere with an FLV player? Not sure if related, but after completeing the below, I get an error that the action took so long to load it timed out.
Didn’t touch the page, only other action besides css is ScriptyFader - this is just on my file copy, quit without saving and opened again from file and got the same results -
This is the same page as here:
I did recently have some file problems unrelated to Freeway…
Thanks in advance,
Frank
On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
There is a SmoothScroll Action now, and it is guaranteed not to mess with Carousel controls at all. I have tested it here.
Be sure to download the latest SmoothScroll and the latest Carousel, remove both Action files from your Actions folder before adding the new ones, and test the combination in a new and otherwise empty document while all other documents are closed.
Updating bundle Actions is a bit more of a pain than it should be, but here’s the Cliff’s Notes:
Quit Freeway.
Locate your Actions folder. In a default installation, it will be here: /Users/[you]/Library/Application Support/Freeway 5/Actions/General
Locate the Actions you need to replace/update. SmoothScroll.fwactionb and Protaculous.fwactionb, and delete them. Move them to the trash and empty the trash.
Drag the new versions into place within your Actions folder.
On any document where you have used these Actions in the past, you can try using them again directly and see if you have any trouble. If you still do, then you have to do the next (last) step:
Locate every instance of the Carousel, Carousel Pane, Carousel Tab, Carousel Button, etc. that you have used in the entire document. Remove the Actions from any elements they are attached to. Publish once. Now apply them again, which should include the new version in your document, rather than the older cached version that was still causing you grief.
The reason for all of this madness is because Freeway is helpful. Each time you use an Action, it caches the Action file within the document where you have used it. This works perfectly for simple Actions, since they are only plain text files after all. But the bundle Actions, like any of my Scripty Actions, are really many many files bundled together in a complex folder structure, rather than single simple files. As a result, the cacheing system caches the Action file, but none of the support files or the folder structure that tells the system to treat them as a single element. When you update, you can end up in a situation where the cached Action file from the document is being used in conjunction with newer support files from the bundle, and that becomes an unholy mess that will either not run at all, or will cause errors that the developer cannot reproduce.
Walter
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smooth scrolling issue Walter do you still have that code in which created, I tried to create java code which can work to scroll smooth between anchors
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Please try again on a completely blank new Freeway document. Blank
page. Build up a Carousel, and then add some content further down the
page and set up anchors to those elements and apply SmoothScroll to
the page. See what happens. I am convinced (by the fact that I can’t
repeat your problem here) that the issue you are seeing is unrelated
to these two Actions. They really do play well with one another.
Remember, you can have too much of a good thing. Try to stick to one
or two wizzy effects per page if you can.
Walter
On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Frank H wrote:
Walter,
Would doing so interfere with an FLV player? Not sure if related,
but after completeing the below, I get an error that the action took
so long to load it timed out.Didn’t touch the page, only other action besides css is ScriptyFader
- this is just on my file copy, quit without saving and opened again
from file and got the same results -This is the same page as here:
I did recently have some file problems unrelated to Freeway…
Thanks in advance,
Frank
On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
There is a SmoothScroll Action now, and it is guaranteed not to mess
with Carousel controls at all. I have tested it here.Be sure to download the latest SmoothScroll and the latest Carousel,
remove both Action files from your Actions folder before adding the
new ones, and test the combination in a new and otherwise empty
document while all other documents are closed.Updating bundle Actions is a bit more of a pain than it should be,
but here’s the Cliff’s Notes:
Quit Freeway.
Locate your Actions folder. In a default installation, it will be
here: /Users/[you]/Library/Application Support/Freeway 5/Actions/
GeneralLocate the Actions you need to replace/update.
SmoothScroll.fwactionb and Protaculous.fwactionb, and delete them.
Move them to the trash and empty the trash.Drag the new versions into place within your Actions folder.
On any document where you have used these Actions in the past,
you can try using them again directly and see if you have any
trouble. If you still do, then you have to do the next (last) step:Locate every instance of the Carousel, Carousel Pane, Carousel
Tab, Carousel Button, etc. that you have used in the entire
document. Remove the Actions from any elements they are attached to.
Publish once. Now apply them again, which should include the new
version in your document, rather than the older cached version that
was still causing you grief.The reason for all of this madness is because Freeway is helpful.
Each time you use an Action, it caches the Action file within the
document where you have used it. This works perfectly for simple
Actions, since they are only plain text files after all. But the
bundle Actions, like any of my Scripty Actions, are really many many
files bundled together in a complex folder structure, rather than
single simple files. As a result, the cacheing system caches the
Action file, but none of the support files or the folder structure
that tells the system to treat them as a single element. When you
update, you can end up in a situation where the cached Action file
from the document is being used in conjunction with newer support
files from the bundle, and that becomes an unholy mess that will
either not run at all, or will cause errors that the developer
cannot reproduce.Walter
On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:05 PM, stuart wrote:
smooth scrolling issue Walter do you still have that code in which
created, I tried to create java code which can work to scroll
smooth between anchorsStu
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I appreciate your reply, and just wanted to reiterate that I was not moving, adding (I kinda feel it’s too wizzy now…), changing anything with the page.
I thought perhaps the page from file loading may have changed as a result of having replaced the actions below as instructed, but really can’t see that happening.
Me thinks I’ve got a damaged file…
Thanks!
Frank
On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
Please try again on a completely blank new Freeway document. Blank page. Build up a Carousel, and then add some content further down the page and set up anchors to those elements and apply SmoothScroll to the page. See what happens. I am convinced (by the fact that I can’t repeat your problem here) that the issue you are seeing is unrelated to these two Actions. They really do play well with one another.
Remember, you can have too much of a good thing. Try to stick to one or two wizzy effects per page if you can.
Walter
On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Frank H wrote:
Walter,
Would doing so interfere with an FLV player? Not sure if related, but after completeing the below, I get an error that the action took so long to load it timed out.
Didn’t touch the page, only other action besides css is ScriptyFader - this is just on my file copy, quit without saving and opened again from file and got the same results -
This is the same page as here:
I did recently have some file problems unrelated to Freeway…
Thanks in advance,
Frank
On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote:
There is a SmoothScroll Action now, and it is guaranteed not to mess with Carousel controls at all. I have tested it here.
Be sure to download the latest SmoothScroll and the latest Carousel, remove both Action files from your Actions folder before adding the new ones, and test the combination in a new and otherwise empty document while all other documents are closed.
Updating bundle Actions is a bit more of a pain than it should be, but here’s the Cliff’s Notes:
Quit Freeway.
Locate your Actions folder. In a default installation, it will be here: /Users/[you]/Library/Application Support/Freeway 5/Actions/General
Locate the Actions you need to replace/update. SmoothScroll.fwactionb and Protaculous.fwactionb, and delete them. Move them to the trash and empty the trash.
Drag the new versions into place within your Actions folder.
On any document where you have used these Actions in the past, you can try using them again directly and see if you have any trouble. If you still do, then you have to do the next (last) step:
Locate every instance of the Carousel, Carousel Pane, Carousel Tab, Carousel Button, etc. that you have used in the entire document. Remove the Actions from any elements they are attached to. Publish once. Now apply them again, which should include the new version in your document, rather than the older cached version that was still causing you grief.
The reason for all of this madness is because Freeway is helpful. Each time you use an Action, it caches the Action file within the document where you have used it. This works perfectly for simple Actions, since they are only plain text files after all. But the bundle Actions, like any of my Scripty Actions, are really many many files bundled together in a complex folder structure, rather than single simple files. As a result, the cacheing system caches the Action file, but none of the support files or the folder structure that tells the system to treat them as a single element. When you update, you can end up in a situation where the cached Action file from the document is being used in conjunction with newer support files from the bundle, and that becomes an unholy mess that will either not run at all, or will cause errors that the developer cannot reproduce.
Walter
On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:05 PM, stuart wrote:
smooth scrolling issue Walter do you still have that code in which created, I tried to create java code which can work to scroll smooth between anchors
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I’ve got this working nicely with the Carousel action, but Smoothscroll doesn’t appear to work yet with Carousel 2.
Cheers for these very cool actions, Walt.
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Make sure you have the very latest version of both. I believe I updated SS to work with C2 some months ago. Try this out in a brand new document, while no other documents are open, with no templates used. Just to rule out a cached version in the document itself being used in preference to the latest installed version.
Walter
On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:01 AM, derekzinger wrote:
I’ve got this working nicely with the Carousel action, but Smoothscroll doesn’t appear to work yet with Carousel 2.
Cheers for these very cool actions, Walt.
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