Using subdomains

They are one and the same.

Create it as a subfolder of the FW doc and link to it as m.60SecondMarketer.com

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Sorry to be slow on the uptake about this, DeltaDave, but I don’t really understand what’s meant by, “Create it as a subfolder of the FW doc and link to it as m.60SecondMarketer.com.”

Can you dumb that down for me?

I know how to create a FOLDER in FW, but as far as I can tell, there’s no drop-down menu for creating a subfolder.

Also, what do you mean by “link to it”?

(Side note: What I’m doing, by the way, is creating pages for a mobile version of my website. After a lot of research, it looks as thought one of the better ways to do that is to create an m. subdomain and have pages to the mobile version of the site there.)

Thanks!

– Jamie

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When GoDaddy created this subdomain, did they create a new web root for it, or did the create a folder inside your existing site root folder called m, and tell you to upload your mobile site there? Either of these scenarios are possible, and they’re equally valid from the server’s perspective.

In Freeway, if you make a folder in the site pane, that folder is actually a subfolder of the main site root folder. But if you create your mobile site in the same document as your regular site and your mobile site is in the m subfolder, then all your links will be broken if you link from one site to another using Freeway’s normal linking. You’ll also have a decent chance of missing graphics on the mobile site.

What I recommend you do is create a new document for the mobile site, and upload to the m folder wherever it may be from that document. Don’t create the folder in the site pane, just set it as the site root in Freeway.

All your links from one site to the other need to be external links, just as if you were linking to a site you didn’t create.

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Hi, Walt –

Thanks for the follow-up. I think I’m tracking here.

Essentially, you’re saying I need to create a new Freeway website that’s the mobile site and upload that to an m. subdomain in my existing hosting account.

I’ve tried that, but it hasn’t worked yet.

Here were my steps:

  1. I contacted GoDaddy with a request to create an m. subdomain
  2. The guy at GoDaddy seemed to know exactly what I wanted to do, so I trust he did it correctly, but you never know.
  3. Our steps were to go into my domain manager and create a subdomain called “m” that’s in a folder called “/m”
  4. Then, I created a new Freeway mobile website document and saved it into a folder on my hard drive called m
  5. I tried to upload the new Freeway mobile site to the 60SecondMarketer.com server and to a directory called /m.

Unfortunately, this is the message I got:

“Cannot complete upload because a file or folder could not be accessed. (550 Can’t change directory to /m: No such file or directory”

Thoughts or comments?

Thanks so much.

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The /m folder may be in your htdocs or public_html or whatever the
root folder for your web site is called. So if the rest of your site
is in /htdocs, your m folder would be /htdocs/m. Give that a try. And
really try looking in the folder using Transmit or Fetch or CyberDuck
or whatever other FTP application you may have handy. Even that awful
Java applet that GD foists on their customers will help you see the
directory structure on the server and find that elusive /m.

Walter

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Unfortunately, this is the message I got:

“Cannot complete upload because a file or folder could not be
accessed. (550 Can’t change directory to /m: No such file or
directory”

Thoughts or comments?


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Very interesting, Walt. I looked in the directory structure on the server and wasn’t able to see the /m folder.

I’m going to call GoDaddy on the phone later today to find out what the scoop is, but that should explain why I couldn’t upload the mobile site.

Once I find/install the proper m. subdomain folder, I’ll upload a separate mobile site to that subdomain and we should be good-to-go.

As always, thanks go out to you and DeltaDave.

Best,
Jamie


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That worked!

It turns out it was a problem on the GoDaddy side. They set up the subdomain, but it didn’t create a folder on the hosting account.

We fixed that. So, theoretically, I now have a mobile website.

People who have a smart phone should be able to type in www.60SecondMarketer.com from their mobile device and they’ll be re-directed to m.60SecondMarketer.com, which is my site set up specifically for the small screen.

I’ll be testing it today and tomorrow to work out any kinks, but I think I’m good.

Thanks!


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You will need a script to sniff the device to auto re-direct to m.60SecondMarketer.com

Kind Regards
David Owen

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That worked!

It turns out it was a problem on the GoDaddy side. They set up the subdomain, but it didn’t create a folder on the hosting account.

We fixed that. So, theoretically, I now have a mobile website.

People who have a smart phone should be able to type in www.60SecondMarketer.com from their mobile device and they’ll be re-directed to m.60SecondMarketer.com, which is my site set up specifically for the small screen.

I’ll be testing it today and tomorrow to work out any kinks, but I think I’m good.

Thanks!


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Hi, David –

You’re right. I do need a script for that. I tested it just now and it’s not working for a Blackberry or an Android phone.

Do you know who can write the script for me? Or is there an action?

I’m willing to pay for the script, if necessary.

Thanks,
Jamie


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A quick google search brought up a JavaScript re-direct

(adjust to suit)

David

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Hi, David –

You’re right. I do need a script for that. I tested it just now and it’s not working for a Blackberry or an Android phone.

Do you know who can write the script for me? Or is there an action?

I’m willing to pay for the script, if necessary.

Thanks,
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Remember that you can also use the iPhone/iPad redirect action on your index page (and others)

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And it works on my iPhone - and looks good!

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I see you have used the iPhone redirect to/Mobile/index.html

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It be redirecting to the URL http://m.60SecondMarketer.com

David

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I see you have used the iPhone redirect to/Mobile/index.html

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Sorry that should have been "it should be redirecting to…

(tapping this in iOS)

David

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It be redirecting to the URL http://m.60SecondMarketer.com

David

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I see you have used the iPhone redirect to/Mobile/index.html

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Hi, David and Dave –

Yes, I’m using the iPhone redirect and it works great. What a terrific Action. Thanks.

Now, I’d like to add the script that David mentioned so that people arriving from non-iPhone smart phones can be re-directed.

I’m not all that well-versed in adding and adapting scripts.

Two questions:

  1. Where would I add that script? Would I go to Page → HTML Markup and add it there?
  2. Also, how should I adapt the script? I don’t know HTML, but I’m assuming that I’d simply change the line that says "document.location = “mobile.html” to "document.location = “m.60SecondMarketer.com.html” Is that right?

Thanks!

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1 - Yes - probably before /Head would be best

2 -

<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
if (screen.width <= 699) {    document.location = "http://m.60SecondMarketer.com";    }    //-->
</script>

Try this link from your Blackberry/Android http://www.deltadesign.co/odds/3dcube.html

Provided their screens are less than 699 of course.

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Hi, DeltaDave –

That worked like a charm. I tested it from my smart phone and it re-directed to the appropriate page.

Bravo.

What I’ve learned from all this is that I don’t actually need an m subdomain after all. As long as I have the script installed, I can re-direct to any page I want. And as long as that page is set-up to be mobile friendly, it works perfectly.

You guys were probably saying that all along during this Forum stream, but I was too slow on the uptake to figure that out.

Anyway, we’re off to the races. All is good.

As always, thanks so much for all your help.

P.S. If any of you are interested in learning more about social media, you might enjoy my book just published by the Financial Times Press called “How to Make Money with Social Media.” My next book? “How to Make Money with Mobile Media.” LOL.

Thanks,

Jamie


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