V3C validator

Good Afternoon,

I am working on getting everything through the “backdoor” in check with V3C validation, doing a sitemap etc.

I recieved 25 errors:

how do I correct these? I Ass U Med that freeway put the end tags in place.

Thank you for your help.

Julie
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How did you add your meta tags? Did you use the Freeway Page / Meta Tag dialog, or the Page / HTML Markup? If the latter, then this is easy to fix. As they note, just put a / before the closing > in your tag code and you should be fine.

And there’s the place where you have used a capital A instead of lower-case a in your feed link.

And finally you have added a second head to your page somehow, beginning around where you have your Pragma no-cache stuff. Most likely that is added through Page HTML Markup, and you may have interpreted some instructions showing you where to put the tags (in the context of the page HEAD) literally to mean that you needed to add the actual head tag a second time. So strip out the tags that you added, and place the code that’s currently within them in the actual page HEAD by using Page / HTML Markup and selecting Before from the picker in its lower-left corner.

Most of these errors are springing from a decision to use a Strict DOCTYPE for your page, which does require that you code more accurately.

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I used the meta tag dialog

I had to put a validation code from google someplace and I did you the page html mark up. - i moved this to before head.

strict DOCTYPE? I am set up with trans 1.0 xhtml if thats what that means.

the feed link: do you mean this:

<!-- AddThis Button BEGIN --><a href="http://www.addthis.com/feed.php?username=swimmer35&amp;h1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grassrootsweb.net&amp;t1=" onclick="return addthis_open(this, 'feed', 'http://www.grassrootsweb.net/index.xml')" alt="Subscribe using any feed reader!" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.grassrootsweb.net/Resources/rss.gif" width="48" height="48" alt="Subscribe" style="border:0"/></a><script type="text/javascript" src="http://s7.addthis.com/js/250/addthis_widget.js#username=swimmer35"></script>
<!-- AddThis Button END -->

thank you

J
this is what i got from addthis
On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:19 PM, waltd wrote:

How did you add your meta tags? Did you use the Freeway Page / Meta Tag dialog, or the Page / HTML Markup? If the latter, then this is easy to fix. As they note, just put a / before the closing > in your tag code and you should be fine.

And there’s the place where you have used a capital A instead of lower-case a in your feed link.

And finally you have added a second head to your page somehow, beginning around where you have your Pragma no-cache stuff. Most likely that is added through Page HTML Markup, and you may have interpreted some instructions showing you where to put the tags (in the context of the page HEAD) literally to mean that you needed to add the actual head tag a second time. So strip out the tags that you added, and place the code that’s currently within them in the actual page HEAD by using Page / HTML Markup and selecting Before from the picker in its lower-left corner.

Most of these errors are springing from a decision to use a Strict DOCTYPE for your page, which does require that you code more accurately.

Walter


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PS I have the meta-tag action in place too

On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:19 PM, waltd wrote:

How did you add your meta tags? Did you use the Freeway Page / Meta Tag dialog, or the Page / HTML Markup? If the latter, then this is easy to fix. As they note, just put a / before the closing > in your tag code and you should be fine.

And there’s the place where you have used a capital A instead of lower-case a in your feed link.

And finally you have added a second head to your page somehow, beginning around where you have your Pragma no-cache stuff. Most likely that is added through Page HTML Markup, and you may have interpreted some instructions showing you where to put the tags (in the context of the page HEAD) literally to mean that you needed to add the actual head tag a second time. So strip out the tags that you added, and place the code that’s currently within them in the actual page HEAD by using Page / HTML Markup and selecting Before from the picker in its lower-left corner.

Most of these errors are springing from a decision to use a Strict DOCTYPE for your page, which does require that you code more accurately.

Walter


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I used the meta tag dialog and the meta tag action

I had to put a validation code from google someplace and I did you the page html mark up. - i moved this to before head.

strict DOCTYPE? I am set up with trans 1.0 xhtml if thats what that means.

the feed link: do you mean this:

<!-- AddThis Button BEGIN --><a href="http://www.addthis.com/feed.php?username=swimmer35&amp;h1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grassrootsweb.net&amp;t1=" onclick="return addthis_open(this, 'feed', 'http://www.grassrootsweb.net/index.xml')" alt="Subscribe using any feed reader!" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.grassrootsweb.net/Resources/rss.gif" width="48" height="48" alt="Subscribe" style="border:0"/></a><script type="text/javascript" src="http://s7.addthis.com/js/250/addthis_widget.js#username=swimmer35"></script>
<!-- AddThis Button END -->

I jst ran it and am now getting 31 errors… ugh HELP!!
thank you

J
this is what i got from addthis
On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:19 PM, waltd wrote:

How did you add your meta tags? Did you use the Freeway Page / Meta Tag dialog, or the Page / HTML Markup? If the latter, then this is easy to fix. As they note, just put a / before the closing > in your tag code and you should be fine.

And there’s the place where you have used a capital A instead of lower-case a in your feed link.

And finally you have added a second head to your page somehow, beginning around where you have your Pragma no-cache stuff. Most likely that is added through Page HTML Markup, and you may have interpreted some instructions showing you where to put the tags (in the context of the page HEAD) literally to mean that you needed to add the actual head tag a second time. So strip out the tags that you added, and place the code that’s currently within them in the actual page HEAD by using Page / HTML Markup and selecting Before from the picker in its lower-left corner.

Most of these errors are springing from a decision to use a Strict DOCTYPE for your page, which does require that you code more accurately.

Walter


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XHTML requires meta tags and other singleton tags (like images, or break tags) to be self-closed. Freeway doesn’t mess this sort of thing up, if it created the tags, then it would close them properly for the page’s HTML level. It’s the difference between:

<meta ... />

and

<meta ... >

The first is XHTML syntax, and the second is HTML syntax.

XHTML also requires that all tags be lower-case. So your <A> tag should be <a> instead.

I don’t know about a Meta tag Action, only the built in stuff in Freeway. Can you post a link to that Action? I am guessing that’s where your problem code is coming from. You can add as many different meta tags directly in Freeway (and know for sure that they will be coded correctly) so I’m not sure why you’re using the Action as well.

Looking at the source of your page, I can see that the Freeway-generated meta tags are correctly self-closed, but there is a big chunk of meta after the main style section that is not – I’m guessing those came from the Action.

The Google validation code can be removed once you have verified your site with Google. But if you decide to leave it in, you must move it after the opening tag and before the closing tag. You currently have it before the opening and it’s throwing a new and more colorful error from there, and cascading to make even more errors further down the page.

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Walt,

I remove the action by tim:
http://www.freewayactions.com/product.php?id=031

removed the validation from google.

I dont get where the is - is it in the script I posted? sorry, I am still very green on this subject.

I am now getting only 5 errors.

Thank you so much for your help

Julie
On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:45 PM, waltd wrote:

XHTML requires meta tags and other singleton tags (like images, or break tags) to be self-closed. Freeway doesn’t mess this sort of thing up, if it created the tags, then it would close them properly for the page’s HTML level. It’s the difference between:

<meta … />

and

<meta … >

The first is XHTML syntax, and the second is HTML syntax.

XHTML also requires that all tags be lower-case. So your <A> tag should be <a> instead.

I don’t know about a Meta tag Action, only the built in stuff in Freeway. Can you post a link to that Action? I am guessing that’s where your problem code is coming from. You can add as many different meta tags directly in Freeway (and know for sure that they will be coded correctly) so I’m not sure why you’re using the Action as well.

Looking at the source of your page, I can see that the Freeway-generated meta tags are correctly self-closed, but there is a big chunk of meta after the main style section that is not – I’m guessing those came from the Action.

The Google validation code can be removed once you have verified your site with Google. But if you decide to leave it in, you must move it after the opening tag and before the closing tag. You currently have it before the opening and it’s throwing a new and more colorful error from there, and cascading to make even more errors further down the page.

Walter


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On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

I dont get where the is - is it in the script I posted? sorry,
I am still very green on this subject.

It’s on the link named “Website Design” as in:

"Featured in the National Website Design Directory. (no quotes)

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Thank you! that was deleted.

I still have 3 but unsure how to fix?

Thank you so much to all of you

J
On Jun 26, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Todd wrote:

On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

I dont get where the is - is it in the script I posted? sorry, I am still very green on this subject.

It’s on the link named “Website Design” as in:

"Featured in the National Website Design Directory. (no quotes)

Todd


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On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:55 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

I still have 3 but unsure how to fix?

Error 1 is because the attribute, alt=“Subscribe using any feed
reader!” is not allowed here. Try deleting it.
It seems errors 2 & 3 are because you have a tag where it’s not
supposed to be, ie, it can’t go inside the tag which means the
tag inside that tag is also incorrect.

Do you have a proper text editor? If not you should get one as it
makes finding these thing much easier.

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Hi Julie,
Your last two errors are down to a page action. I think it’s called
‘no cache’ (although I can’t recall t the moment). I remember flagging
the issue that the action creates invalid code when the action was
released but later found out that it needed to work like this to do
the cache busting.
Good luck with the hunt for the action and the page validation.
Regards,
Tim.

On 26 Jun 2010, at 05:55, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Thank you! that was deleted.

I still have 3 but unsure how to fix?

Validation Results - W3C Markup Validator

Thank you so much to all of you

J
On Jun 26, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Todd wrote:

On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

I dont get where the is - is it in the script I posted?
sorry, I am still very green on this subject.

It’s on the link named “Website Design” as in:

"Featured in the National Website Design Directory. (no quotes)

Todd

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Thanks Tim,

I do have that action on the page. Do you think I should remove it?

J

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On Jun 26, 2010, at 4:44, Tim Plumb email@hidden wrote:

Hi Julie,
Your last two errors are down to a page action. I think it’s called ‘no cache’ (although I can’t recall t the moment). I remember flagging the issue that the action creates invalid code when the action was released but later found out that it needed to work like this to do the cache busting.
Good luck with the hunt for the action and the page validation.
Regards,
Tim.

On 26 Jun 2010, at 05:55, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Thank you! that was deleted.

I still have 3 but unsure how to fix?

Validation Results - W3C Markup Validator

Thank you so much to all of you

J
On Jun 26, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Todd wrote:

On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

I dont get where the is - is it in the script I posted? sorry, I am still very green on this subject.

It’s on the link named “Website Design” as in:

"Featured in the National Website Design Directory. (no quotes)

Todd

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TIm,

I removed that action and I am down to one.

I looked in the markup item and I can not find the line they are specifying. any clues how to do this one?

thank you for all of your help

Julie

On Jun 26, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

Thank you! that was deleted.

I still have 3 but unsure how to fix?

Validation Results - W3C Markup Validator

Thank you so much to all of you

J
On Jun 26, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Todd wrote:

On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

I dont get where the is - is it in the script I posted? sorry, I am still very green on this subject.

It’s on the link named “Website Design” as in:

"Featured in the National Website Design Directory. (no quotes)

Todd


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On Jun 26, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Julie Maxwell Allen wrote:

I looked in the markup item and I can not find the line they are
specifying. any clues how to do this one?

If the rendered code is being generated dynamically by a 3rd Party
then you’re stuck with it. I’m guessing that’s the case, though I
could be wrong.

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This is coming from the AddThis Action as far as I can tell. There is an alt tag on the image button, which is fine, but another alt tag is being added to the onclick tag, which is simply wrong. Click on the image to which you added the AddThis Action, and see if it has any alt text applied to it. I don’t know if that has anything to do with it, but it would be a place to start.

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<!-- AddThis Button BEGIN --><a href="http://www.addthis.com/feed.php?username=swimmer35&amp;h1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grassrootsweb.net&amp;t1=" onclick="return addthis_open(this, 'feed', 'http://www.grassrootsweb.net/index.xml')" alt="Subscribe using any feed reader!" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.grassrootsweb.net/Resources/rss.gif" width="48" height="48" alt="Subscribe" style="border:0"/></a><script type="text/javascript" src="http://s7.addthis.com/js/250/addthis_widget.js#username=swimmer35"></script>
<!-- AddThis Button END -->

this is the code that is in the markup. and I see it there now -

how do I fix it? THank you

J

On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:07 AM, waltd wrote:

This is coming from the AddThis Action as far as I can tell. There is an alt tag on the image button, which is fine, but another alt tag is being added to the onclick tag, which is simply wrong. Click on the image to which you added the AddThis Action, and see if it has any alt text applied to it. I don’t know if that has anything to do with it, but it would be a place to start.

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The only way is kick it out.
Antispam receives also error messages.
But actually you dont need a validation.
As long as it runns quick, fast and smooth
it is ok. If you really wanna do something,
try to make the page size smaller. 2 Test
from your site …

Warning! The total size of your images is 877035 bytes

TOTAL_SIZE - Warning! The total size of this page is 903713 bytes


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Julie, get rid of the hand-coded AddThis, and use the Action provided by Softpress. It’s either a built-in Action in FW5.4 or it’s on ActionsForge.

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Walt - Ok I will use the built in - but Can I use my own graphic like I have now?

Tom:
I am trying to do this ( as you probably know) to help google search, and get in the rankings- I was told that these errors will prevent the search engines -

Recommendations on making the page smaller - it is as tight as I can make it?
Thank you both for your help

J
On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:19 AM, TomP wrote:

The only way is kick it out.
Antispam receives also error messages.
But actually you dont need a validation.
As long as it runns quick, fast and smooth
it is ok. If you really wanna do something,
try to make the page size smaller. 2 Test
from your site …

Warning! The total size of your images is 877035 bytes

TOTAL_SIZE - Warning! The total size of this page is 903713 bytes


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Validation is not “ranking tuning”.

My Pages show error messages
too but I’am constantly between
place 3 and place 8!

A good ranking comes from:
-description
-alt tags
-text on the site
-proper page names
-proper link names
-keywords
-links to/from other sites
-proper h1, h2,h3 settings


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