XHTML.....?

I was snooping around on Opensourcemac.org and followed a link to a programme called NVU. I didn’t download it, but did read some of the reviews. Bear in mind this one was dated 2005… Discontinued Apps | MacUpdate

"…Sigh… Nvu (1.0 final release, not PR!) is a good start: not because it’s a good WYSIWYG html editor, but because it’s the ONLY free WYSIWYG html editor available for Mac OS X. Sadly. The work that has been put into this software is very highly respected, and things can only get better from here on.

I’m sure Nvu is great if you just want to hack up a couple of simple pages without needing to know about HTML. However, if you do professional web design, you can safely forget about Nvu at this stage. There are just too many inconsistencies and bugs if you really need to rely on the details and focus on high-quality, elegant code.

You can only switch between HTML 4 and XHTML 1 and between transitional and strict DTDs, and that is not honored correctly (if set to XHTML, an HTML 4 header is inserted anyway). It does the most vile thing a web editor can possibly do: it automatically reformats and changes your existing code, even if you tell it in the preferences not to. If you use inline CSS formatting, it inserts a huge bunch of completely unnecessary CSS formatting statements. This is about as bad as it can get; a regression to the bad, dark, old world of the web-editing stone age à la Claris HomePage (1997). Not good!

To sum it up, if you’re still stuck in the HTML 4 era (1997-2000), and don’t care about what’s happening in the background (i.e. code), Nvu will be quite a useful piece of software. If you’re going to do state of the art web development (using XHTML 1 and CSS), Nvu will not work for, but against you. It’s more fun developing with a standard text editor (as before) than wasting time editing out the bad stuff Nvu automagically puts into your code…"

Where does FW currently stand vis-a-vis this?

Hugh


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On 18 Feb 2008, at 12:43, hugh wrote:

Where does FW currently stand vis-a-vis this?

Not quite sure what you’re asking, but let’s say that the Pro version
of Freeway 4 (and FW5) can publish to HTML 4.01 Strict and
Transitional, and XHTML 1.0 Strict and Transitional. (I forgot HTML
3.2, but it’s in there anyway.)

Better still, you can switch any page in your Freeway document to any
of the output standards at any time you like. As simple as choosing
from the Inspector.

Personally, I work to XHTML 1.0 Transitional for all new works now.

Cheers

Heather


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As a side note, NVU is now called ‘KompoZer’ and can be found here http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/


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Heather said [quote]Not quite sure what you’re asking…[/quote]…

Hi Heather, I suppose I was asking about that line which says “if you’re still stuck in HTML 4 land” and the suggestion that XHTML and CSS are the cutting edge of web design. I’m sure they are, and I believe Freeway 4 and 5 support this cutting edge-ness…is that right?

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On 18 Feb 2008, at 13:38, hugh wrote:

I’m sure they are, and I believe Freeway 4 and 5 support this
cutting edge-ness…is that right?

Yep.

:o)

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Sometime around 18/2/08 (at 08:25 -0500) blib86 said:

As a side note, NVU is now called ‘KompoZer’ and can be found here
http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/

And left there, preferably.

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