Just for informational purposes, here is a link to another web page designer that supposedly doesn’t require html knowledge.
http://www.webacappella.fr/crbst_2_en.html
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I like the Database aspect; an interesting feature for a seemingly
simple WYSIWYG app. Hmmm…
Todd
On Jan 20, 2009, at 2:08 PM, chuckamuck wrote:
Just for informational purposes, here is a link to another web page
designer that supposedly doesn’t require html knowledge.
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I just realized their web site is all Flash. This app may generate Flash pages instead of html.
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And French Flash at that…
It really doesn’t tell you much about the app itself - or am I missing something?
David
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This app may generate Flash pages instead of html.
That is exactly what it does. Disappointing, but it may be another reasonable way to generate a web gallery page based on Flash.
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It really doesn’t tell you much about the app itself - or am I missing something?
Not much. The most information is under the help menu.
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Interestingly on the FAQ part of their site it says:
Q: Web Accapella websites are published in Flash, is it a problem for referencing?
A: Absolutely not! Web Accapella allows you to fill in your keywords in the properties of your website. Moreover, the text in your pages is reported on the HTML code of your website. Search engines can easily check the keywords and the text of your Web Accapella website so as to be well referenced.
Keith, any comments on this?
David
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They are converting fonts to flash fonts. Keeps the text selectable (and searchable?), but is not really a font once converted.
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Keeps the text selectable (and searchable?)
Maybe on some of the pages but the text is certainly not selectable on the FAQ page! I had to retype that bit.
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Sometime around 20/1/09 (at 19:44 -0500) DeltaDave said:
Keith, any comments on this?
Yep. Google (and the rest) want to provide searchers with web pages
that best match the search queries. If a page is filled with a Flash
object and the HTML text isn’t in some visible form (which it isn’t
on the Web Accapella page) then it isn’t trusted as much.
How hard is it for Google’s spiders to see the “display:none” part of
the div tag that holds WebAcapella’s SEO-oriented and supposedly
human-visible text? Why would this be materially different to putting
white text on a white background?
It seems Google hasn’t yet started to penalise this particular
practise (the webaccapella site has a little over 100 pages indexed),
but it is not something I’d regard as safe. And I would presume the
results to be less highly regarded by Google and hence not
necessarily do very well in search results.
k
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But i must say, for a lot of people it would be a very nice and easy way to come up with a webshop, easy contact form, etc…
Nothing can keep me away from my loving FW but i think for a lot of people without any knowledge or experience its tempting.
It does, what freeway used to say it did. ( and i must confess i did find the contact form very nice and easy!)
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True - but once you have created 1 contact form in FW it is simply a matter of copying and pasting it into another FW doc for reuse! With slight modifications of course.
David
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i know your right David, but finding al the right way’s sometimes makes it not so easy to for instead make a contact form.
and the w.y.s.i.w.y.g is not so much anymore in FW as it was.
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and the w.y.s.i.w.y.g is not so much anymore in FW
Only if you choose the CSS way
If you want to stick to table based layouts then it remains much more wysiwyg but the Web is moving on and css3 will be with us all soon and I am afraid we have to do our best to keep up.
David
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Sometime around 24/1/09 (at 19:17 -0500) DeltaDave said:
and the w.y.s.i.w.y.g is not so much anymore in FW
Only if you choose the CSS way
Actually - only if you choose the box model way.
Basic/standard CSS-based layout in Freeway, where each item is
positioned relative to the page rather than other elements, is still
pretty WYSIWYG.
The box-model approach is new and still needs to be matured. CSS
layout is more than just box-model layout.
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Yes Keith - I stand corrected. I should have written
Only if you choose the CSS box model way
The page building process whether Table or CSS layout is essentially the same - draw a box on the page, fill it with content - bingo!
With the one CSS caveat - expanding text boxes overlapping when text sizes increase.
Which is of course why the Box Model came along.
David
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ok, your right here, but that still means you have to make up the ‘harder’ way yourself. and without flatering, i could not do a lot of things without the fwtalk list. Without Ernie, Walt Keith David and Chuck i would not be able to make some things, that are offered standard on a programm like this.
Don’t get me wrong, i love FW, i would never switch, but sometimes i get headaches from trying to find out things, i am not able to in a so called wysietc…
it’s not me that i’m ‘worried’ about, it’s more the people who are new and need to make a choice. This looks so easy, and provides a lot, that FW does not or you would have to use knowledge outside the programm.
( am i making sense? it’s hard to explain sometimes in a different language)
Eugenie
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