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Hi,

This is probably unusual and was wondering if I can do it.

I have a counter on my site.

When I inserted the counter it put a green MARKUp Item box on my page.
When I preview or see the site, the number of hits shows up; all work great.
The maker of the counter made it a hyperlink so if you mouse over the number of hits it takes you to their site. I want to block this.

Unfortunately, I cannot just unhyperlink it…

is there a way to put something CLEAR over it that would allow people to see the number of hits change but would not allow the visitor to click on it as hyperlink?

I tried a few things (graphic box over it with no fill) but no luck so far.

Thanks for reading…

Barry


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Could you provide a link that shows the problem?

Walter

On Jul 14, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

Hi,

This is probably unusual and was wondering if I can do it.

I have a counter on my site.

When I inserted the counter it put a green MARKUp Item box on my page.
When I preview or see the site, the number of hits shows up; all work great.
The maker of the counter made it a hyperlink so if you mouse over the number of hits it takes you to their site. I want to block this.

Unfortunately, I cannot just unhyperlink it…

is there a way to put something CLEAR over it that would allow people to see the number of hits change but would not allow the visitor to click on it as hyperlink?

I tried a few things (graphic box over it with no fill) but no luck so far.

Thanks for reading…

Barry


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the 199,xxx number at top

http://hoffkids.com/test.html


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Try drawing an HTML box and dragging it over the top of the box. I don’t see anything that is actually kinking the link to make it always stay on top. An HTML box should block it.

Walter

On Jul 14, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

the 199,xxx number at top

http://hoffkids.com/test.html


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when I did that- no effect- still hyperlinked.

I turned the html box blue to see if it would be “on top” and it wasnt- after trying it blue you could still see the markup box through the blue box, even though the blue box was on top.


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If both elements have a green border in Freeway, then one should be able to layer above the other. Or if you make the counter a table element (blue border) then any layer (green border) will always be above it, no matter what z-index that layer is set to. The stacking order is as follows: background color is very bottom, covered by background image, covered by any table elements, covered by any layer elements in z-index order (higher numbers are higher above the page).

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On Jul 14, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

when I did that- no effect- still hyperlinked.

I turned the html box blue to see if it would be “on top” and it wasnt- after trying it blue you could still see the markup box through the blue box, even though the blue box was on top.


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Walt. Check out site again with blue box


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The color alone doesn’t make it a table-based element. Un-check the Layer checkbox on the Inspector while the Markup Item is selected.

Walter

On Jul 14, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

Walt. Check out site again with blue box


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haha I know- I just picked blue color randomly and did not think it was the same blue box for table element you were saying- total (bad) coincidence.

trying the uncheck again now…


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i tried that before, but I had it OVER a graphic so when I unchecked it, it dissapeared.

This time I had the counter NOT on a graphic and did what you said and it worked perfectly.

You can check the site again to see .

Thanks Walt.

Brilliant,

Barry


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Walt,

can I ask you a very related question because you mentioned something important about order? you said…

“The stacking order is as follows: background color is very bottom, covered by background image, covered by any table elements, covered by any layer elements in z-index order (higher numbers are higher above the page).”

I had many pages that I set with a black background and for a background image, I used an image that is a white glowing horizontal line with the same black background.

I did not know this then, but now I have figured out that the black background of the page loaded first, then the image (which had the same black background) loaded, therefore nothing “flashed” first.

Most recently, I made some design changes to some pages where the top 1/2 is black and the bottom is white.

In order to accomplish this, I used the same black graphic (which came down 760pxls) and then to get the white beneath that, I changed the PAGE background to white.

This accomplished the task as you will see here in this link…

but first I now notice that on those pages when it loads in, those certain paged flashes WHITE for an annoying and unprofessional split second. I imagine that is because of what you said; the page background loads first, then the background image, etc.

I hate the “white flash” you can see it here…

http://hoffkids.com/mathlinks.html

or

http://hoffkids.com/sciencelinks.html

Before I ask you how to get around this, is this a simple fix…

I would go back to the page background being BLACK as I used to have it, and the lower place that I want white, just make a graphic or HTML box, fill in white and slide it UNDERneath the lower part of site?

thanks!

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hmmm.

walt a little annoying problem has come up with the original thing we were doing with “hiding the hyperlink.”

On one and only 1 page, many items TRANSITION in after 3 seconds, the counter was one of them.

Of course you know I cannot apply a transition fx to this unlayered item and the message says: transition can only be applied to layered or inflow items.

Any suggestions for this item on this one page?

Thanks,

Barry


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Place a background-colored item over the top of it, and have it fade out at the same timing as you originally had the other item fade in.

Walter

On Jul 14, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

hmmm.

walt a little annoying problem has come up with the original thing we were doing with “hiding the hyperlink.”

On one and only 1 page, many items TRANSITION in after 3 seconds, the counter was one of them.


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If you are making a stripe appear a certain distance down the page, try making that background image as small as possible, and letting the background color carry as much as possible. You only have to make it 25px wide or tall, depending on the dimension you are tiling in, and however tall it needs to be to hold the effect. Then also use Photoshop in Save for Web mode to crush down that image to the lowest file size you can manage without it becoming really grungy looking. You should be able to get a mostly solid-color image down below 1K, and that should load very quickly. The flash you are seeing is probably related to the hundreds of K of HTML and JavaScript you have on that page. The browser has to download enough of the page code to figure out what to draw, and while it’s doing that, all it’s going to show is the page background color. Anything you do to reduce the complexity of your page and remove elements and effects will help this process.

Walter

On Jul 14, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

but first I now notice that on those pages when it loads in, those certain paged flashes WHITE for an annoying and unprofessional split second. I imagine that is because of what you said; the page background loads first, then the background image, etc.

I hate the “white flash” you can see it here…

http://hoffkids.com/mathlinks.html


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Hey Walt, about your transition OUT trick, problem was after it fades out it showed the # of hits, then the hyperlink was accessible again.

So what I did was put an HTML item over the counter, then the fading HTML box over that so order is

counter (non-layer)
HTML box blocking it (empty)
HTML (black fill fades out)

and I think it worked!!!

cool!


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Thanks for the explanation and lesson on that.

The background image is just 3k now so that is good.

Can;t really reduce amount of K but I will work towards something.

By the way, your little fade out hide trick was brilliant; great stuff.

Thank you for sharing.

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Replace your current background with this one, it’s only 258 bytes. (It may read as 1K on your Mac, but that’s a function of the filesystem, and how small a file can be on a modern gigantic disk, which is to say only as small as a file block.)

Set it to tile horizontally, and you don’t need to make the image so darned wide.

Walter

On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Barry Hoffman wrote:

Thanks for the explanation and lesson on that.

The background image is just 3k now so that is good.

Can;t really reduce amount of K but I will work towards something.

By the way, your little fade out hide trick was brilliant; great stuff.

Thank you for sharing.

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and you don’t need to make the image so darned wide.

He has been told that already!

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OK- got it, there must have been some confusion on my end. I used that thin new one you just sent Walt on the 8 pages that had the white at the bottom. thanks.

Just not sure of 1 more thing with this…

I just looked at the other 50 pages that are full black background, and their background is thin but very wide. horiz = tile verti= top
This background fills up the screen black as I first learned.

SHould I leave this one or can this be may better too?

here is a page that has the background called ORIGINAL

http://hoffkids.com/screencasts.html

currently the “original” background is thin and wide and the new one from Walt/Dave is narrow and long (set at 760)

Thanks!!

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update:

please be aware I changed the background graphic file on the 50 or so pages that were all black. It is the same dimensions (not sure if still best, but smaller kb).

There is no longer a background file called “original.” Now it will start with the word BLACK to show the difference between those used on the all black pages, and those used for where the white comes in after 760pxls down.

Thanks for any more help with this part.

barry


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