[Pro] EASIEST and QUICKEST alternative

Hi, just heard the dreadful news.

I’m not a programmer or a designer, but I have a 400 page site with large sections for client organisations and I’m in a big bind. I just got a new mac, jumping from Mountain Lion to El Capitan, and of course 4.4.2 doesn’t work - as I expected. I was ready to finally upgrade Freeway, but obviously now I can’t.

In time I will find space in my life to research the best alternative for Freeway Pro and start again, but right now I need to export all the pages, and fire up in something that works on El Cap. I don’t need no new fancy features, I’m not expanding the site, but I need to be able to make small simple tweaks when asked, so I need a program where I can dump my file and upload to keep me online in the mean time.

Which is the easiest alternative for dummies like me? Thanks, Tom


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We don’t know what’s best for you, that’s for you to decide.

But there are several ongoing product discussions about Blocs, RapidWeaver, Pinegrow, text editors, Flux, Coffee Cup, Mobirise and others. They all offer trials so jump in and start testing and see what fits your skill level and needs.

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Which is the easiest alternative for dummies like me?


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Thanks Todd - my problem is that this has happened at a bad time - mid migration when I don’t have any opportunity to scope out lots of alternatives. That’s for later - much later probably. I was hoping someone would say yes, get XYZ, you can export your FW file and open in XYZ and it’ll look the same when you upload. Tomorrow, ideally.

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Something like Pinegrow (or if you’re so inclined, a proper text editor, e.g., Brackets, TextMate, Coda, Dreamweaver, SublimeText, BBEdit, Espresso, Chocolate…get the idea?) will open the HTML, CSS or js files FW generates. Start there.

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I just installed Coffee Cup RSD this weekend with Responsive Content Slider. I was looking a Blocs as well. What sold me on Coffee Cup was the documentation on how to do stuff. I am so new at this that the
documentation was very important.

Plus Coffee Cup software is in the USA. Just easier for to make phone calls, I have called them 3 times now.

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Thanks Chris. I’m on that funny little island that they are still calling the UK for now - so, as I know I’d want to talk too, that would be a negatory for me :slight_smile:


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One other thing you could do is use a virtual machine like VirtualBox to install the old version of Mac OS, and run that and Freeway in the VM. The only restrictions of what you can install on a VM is whatever you can find installers for, and how much disk space you have on hand. Your Mac would be running the version that came with it (since that’s “locked”), but the VM launches inside that and then runs another OS entirely. Most people use these to run Windows or Linux on their Mac for testing or development reasons, but Mac OS can also be installed there.

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Thanks Chris. I’m on that funny little island that they are still calling the UK for now - so, as I know I’d want to talk too, that would be a negatory for me :slight_smile:


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Hi Walter - long time no speak. Hope you are well. I’ve not encountered VM before, so will have to look into it - thanks.

One other option occurs to me. Is it still possible for me to obtain and upgrade to a version of Freeway Pro that’s compatible with El Capitan? I presume Richard and Joe would not object to that, and it might buy me the time I need to research, acquire and then convert the massive FW file I have to tweak most days (It’s actually about 10 websites all in one file, because that’s how we used to do the internet back in the 1830s)!

Are the guys still contactable? I could drive down if necessary - it’s that important.

Thanks - Tom


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I just spotted your yellow Inlay link, Walter. I assume I can open the freeway file in that? Will it look similar at first sight? As I say it could be weeks or even months before I’ll have time to sit down and learn how to use new software - (and I’m totally non-code - dyslexia rules that out, I’m afraid). Got to be movable boxes I can type into like Freeway. Thanks T


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Oh, and Frames - I have to be able to embed my virtual map and LOTS of wordpress files (so others can access some pages):

http://www.turnstone.tv/ProjectFL.html
http://www.turnstone.tv/parksforum1-home.html
http://www.turnstone.tv/tuf1.html
http://www.turnstone.tv/lechome.html
http://www.turnstone.tv/ubocmap.html

etc


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You can download the latest version of FW from softpress.com but you will need a serial #

I am sure that there may be someone here who has a ‘spare’ one.

Walter’s Inlay will not help you as it doesn’t work with the native .freeway files.

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I have a serial number for Pro 4, so I will try it when I get a moment. If it doesn’t work, then if anyone can supply I’d be hugely grateful.

If I can just get it running on El Cap it will buy me some time. At the moment I’m lugging both the old heavy MBPro and the new one round including - both chargers etc - and the old one is seriously sick and keeps shutting down so the sooner I can ditch it the better.

Thanks all

Tom


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Inlay is a hosted CMS that can be embedded into any static Web site. It is not a site editor or creation tool, like Freeway. It is something completely different.

Walter

On Aug 8, 2016, at 2:26 AM, TomBliss email@hidden wrote:

I just spotted your yellow Inlay link, Walter. I assume I can open the freeway file in that? Will it look similar at first sight? As I say it could be weeks or even months before I’ll have time to sit down and learn how to use new software - (and I’m totally non-code - dyslexia rules that out, I’m afraid). Got to be movable boxes I can type into like Freeway. Thanks T


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You can try to contact them by e-mail, but I don’t know if anyone is in the office. There may be little they can do for you from a legal standpoint at this moment.

Walter

On Aug 8, 2016, at 2:17 AM, TomBliss email@hidden wrote:

Hi Walter - long time no speak. Hope you are well. I’ve not encountered VM before, so will have to look into it - thanks.

One other option occurs to me. Is it still possible for me to obtain and upgrade to a version of Freeway Pro that’s compatible with El Capitan? I presume Richard and Joe would not object to that, and it might buy me the time I need to research, acquire and then convert the massive FW file I have to tweak most days (It’s actually about 10 websites all in one file, because that’s how we used to do the internet back in the 1830s)!

Are the guys still contactable? I could drive down if necessary - it’s that important.

Thanks - Tom


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I just downloaded 7 from the Softpress site and put in the serial number that Joe sent in the ‘out of business’ reply to my email.

Does not work - probably because it was only for 4. I don’t think they are answering emails - the reply I go looks like an ‘out of office’

I don’t want to have to buy 7 when the compnay is no longer trading, but I’d love a free copy to buy me some time…

Anyone got any ideas? Thanks

Tom


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I don’t think that this would be possible, given the legal status of the company. If they are looking to sell assets, they would be in breach if they gave you a license, probably would fall afoul of tax law if they sold one. It’s not a simple situation. If someone gives you a S/N, that will probably work to meet your needs, but I don’t see a legal way forward for you as a “new” customer.

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I don’t want to have to buy 7 when the compnay is no longer trading,


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Yes, I just checked, you can’t buy a new key, and my key for Pro 4 is either the wrong key, or they have blocked activation - which is a bit odd when you can still download updates, but there you go.

I would be most grateful if anyone was able to help:

tom [at] urbal.tv


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Tom said > and I’m totally non-code - dyslexia rules that out, I’m afraid

Me too! I am very severely dyslexic! So much so it affects my speech and everything I do. It is a part of life. Therefore I need completely WYSIWYG tools to create the visions in my mind.

When there was just DOS and UNIX I saw no potential for me with computers, but on the other hand back in the 70’s I was talking to my music buddies about how we would be able to have everything that we had inside a Peaches Records and Tapes inside our living rooms and we would be able to hold it in two hands. I was also talking about how we would be able to listen to “radio” all over the World and watch TV worldwide without the networks. But I had no idea how or when it would happen.

Then in the early 90’s I knew that my visions could be reality. i spent two years studying what I needed to know about buying my first mega computer, as I knew by 1996 that the broadband and multimedia was going to happen for real. I bought my first Mac system in March of 1997 and on the second day I had it connected to my Bose/Onkyo surround system and big screen tube TV and satellite working in both directions!

I was able to first catch the first audio streaming and then the video streams, as I only was thinking about multimedia with my Mac. I was using Photoshop 3, QT Pro 3 and Netscape at first and never bother with word processors, databases and spreadsheets. Using a Mac and WYSIWYG tools totally changed my life! Now I can many times create what I see in my head on my Mac. And that is very cool. But if I had to use code to do it, then I still would not have a computer.

Then I started to study SEO in the summer of 1997 and Google came around a year later. It wasn’t until like three years later that I started to use PageMill.

On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:26 AM, TomBliss email@hidden wrote:

I just spotted your yellow Inlay link, Walter. I assume I can open the freeway file in that? Will it look similar at first sight? As I say it could be weeks or even months before I’ll have time to sit down and learn how to use new software - (and I’m totally non-code - dyslexia rules that out, I’m afraid). Got to be movable boxes I can type into like Freeway. Thanks T


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Ok, I found a way to get FW working again, but it’s doing some strange things:

  1. It forgets Publishing, so has to Publish every page every time I open the file, and then upload the whole thing - not just the page I changed.

  2. It forgets the info in the upload dialogue, so I have to type it all in every time I upload.

Anyone got any ideas on why this should be?

Thanks

Tom

And Robert - my story is much the same :slight_smile:


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Oh - and it doesn’t show the file name at the top - it shows 'untitled # (number of times I have opened the doc)"

But when I save, it saves by its correct name, but makes a new file (same name)

Very odd.


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