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Flux can open and edit HTML files. Freeway generates HTML files, but Freeway does not save HTML in its .freeway file. That is the distinction that matters.

If you, as a Freeway user, are accustomed to opening a single document file (the YourSite.freeway file) and having an entire site, then you will not find any other application than Freeway that can do this trick.

But if you are more concerned with working on a site that was once generated in Freeway, but is now a folder full of .html files (your actual Web site, as uploaded to a server somewhere) then you will be happy with lots of different replacements as discussed here.

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On Sep 2, 2016, at 4:14 AM, TomBliss email@hidden wrote:

The reviews for Flux are not encouraging -

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I’d give it a go regardless, but I can’t see how to 'open the sites we’ve created in Freeway. ’ Presumably you’re talking about some file exported from FW not the FW file itself - or is this a direct import from the web, as Sparkle will be able to do soon, I believe, in which case it could open any site, not just those created in FW?

I’m currently looking at Sparkle and liking it a lot.


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Just reporting back on Sparkle. I’d like to recommend it strongly, because it’s really very like Freeway, nicer to use, and it does many even most of the things I needed from Freeway, plus a few more. But there are couple of issues which prevent me giving it 10/10, so I’ve shared those with the guys - hoping they can fix the deal-breakers, at least, soon. (They’ve been very helpful and positive about improvements).

I do think Sparkle will probably be my final choice, but just in case - has anyone any opinions on html egg?


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has anyone any opinions on html egg?

Just had a very brief look at their site and while the blurb looks promising none of the examples sites in their gallery are responsive - apart from the one that is now a WP site!

If you just want to throw up a basic non-responsive site it might be worth a look but after this I wont even bother to launch the Demo.

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Hi

Any recommendations for an app that will enable secure login for certain pages on a website and an easy native CMS?

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has anyone any opinions on html egg?

Just had a very brief look at their site and while the blurb looks promising none of the examples sites in their gallery are responsive - apart from the one that is now a WP site!

If you just want to throw up a basic non-responsive site it might be worth a look but after this I wont even bother to launch the Demo.

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an easy native CMS

Not quite sure what a native CMS is - can you expand?

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Hi Dave

Not a third party add-on CMS.

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an easy native CMS

Not quite sure what a native CMS is - can you expand?

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Not a third party add-on CMS.

Really a Topic for its own thread.

CMS are different things to different users.

Are you saying you want a standalone package, like WordPress, that is ‘the Site’ rather than provide the integration between your content (FW, RW generated etc.) and user created content.

When I asked you to expand I was really hoping you would provide the bigger picture of what you are trying to achieve as there are literally hundreds of CMS methods/apps/services.

A new Topic ‘Which CMS for my Project’

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Hi Elizabeth,

Pinegrow just came out with version 2.93 and a CMS feature for end-user (client) editing, if this is what you are referring to.

http://docs.pinegrow.com/editing/pinegrow-cms-for-static-html-websites


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But … a third party CMS ain’t that big a deal when it’s build into the app you’re working with. It is when you have to manually crowbar it in … am I right?

This might just wet your pants; just pick your favourite flavour and off you go.


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Hi

Thanks for the suggestions, I will look at Pinegrow, I did look at Blocs sometime ago, but not sure if that one appeals, I’ll take another look.
Dave, I want to avoid WordPress as much as possible, I really dislike what they do and they way it works. I like to work from a blank page - from scratch and create and place images, information, etc freely. Yes, I don’t want to “crowbar” in CMS or login sections.

Elizabeth

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Hi Elizabeth,

Pinegrow just came out with version 2.93 and a CMS feature for end-user (client) editing, if this is what you are referring to.

http://docs.pinegrow.com/editing/pinegrow-cms-for-static-html-websites


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Any recommendations for an app that will enable secure login for certain pages on a website and an easy native CMS?

You still haven’t told us what you are trying to achieve.

You may know but we can only guess unless you tell us.

The more information you can share about what you are trying to do the better we can offer suggestions.

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Hi Dave

Creating a new website - client’s current one is 10+ years old, with small ecommerce (shop) only about 20 products so probably don’t need a widget or plug-in, it also needs a login section with three of the pages and ability for CMS. Overall we’re looking at about 50 pages.

Is this sufficient - not much more to say at this stage.

Elizabeth

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Any recommendations for an app that will enable secure login for certain pages on a website and an easy native CMS?

You still haven’t told us what you are trying to achieve.

You may know but we can only guess unless you tell us.

The more information you can share about what you are trying to do the better we can offer suggestions.

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a login section with three of the pages

Can be handled server side depending on the # of users that get access.

and ability for CMS

On those 3 pages or on a site-wide basis?

And what level of user editing is required - are you talking simple text edits, image uploads or something more complicated like page creation etc.

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Hi Dave,
login for those 3 pages only.
text edits, image uploads, no page creation or structural changes.

Elizabeth

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a login section with three of the pages

Can be handled server side depending on the # of users that get access.

and ability for CMS

On those 3 pages or on a site-wide basis?

And what level of user editing is required - are you talking simple text edits, image uploads or something more complicated like page creation etc.

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login for those 3 pages only.

How many users and do you require different access to each page?

text edits, image uploads,

Then any of the standard CMS will do it - Pulse, Perch, Web Yep etc.

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After 2 difficult days with Blocs 2.2, I’m inclined to stick with Freeway for now and then transition over to RapidWeaver. I think the thing that is most appealing to me about RW is the depth of users and forums like freeway.talk.
This forum has helped me tremendously over the years and I must say that having a dedicated user group is a “tool” I always want at my disposal.
My initial response to the Softpress news was to scramble around finding something “new”, but then finding something that has been around a while with lots of users seems more comforting to me.
(Could also be my age as I quickly approach the big 7 0)


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login for those 3 pages only.

How many users and do you require different access to each page?

Unsure, it depends on the client and how many people she wants to give access to - read only with possible downloads.

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text edits, image uploads,

Then any of the standard CMS will do it - Pulse, Perch, Web Yep etc.

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Well, some time ago I bought Sparkle, and have since spent a LOT of time getting to know it’s foibles and conversing with the developers, who are very nice guys and quick to respond.

I give it 9 out of 10 for ease of use and a very nice ui. It’s missing some key features (which I can mainly work around) and it’s badly flaky around page size and the Menu feature, but I’ve eventually managed to build two small sites, and they mostly look ok. (I made a few improvements while I was at it).

Freeway: http://www.turnstone.tv/parksforum1-home.html
Sparkle: Home and News

and

Freeway: http://www.turnstone.tv/lechome.html
Sparkle: http://leedsediblecampus.co.uk/

I’ve got a list of strangenesses that I think they need urgently to address if they’re to continue selling Sparkle for actual money (especially the lack of a searchable Help which is a major drawback because some elements, such as Sections, are totally incomprehensible), plus an even longer list of things that I think they need to add soon if the program is going to be successful, and they tell me they are working on these.

But my problem is this:

I now have to start building my bigger sites - which will many many many hours of work. Do I risk running with a small company who are naturally going to take a long time to get round the the fixes that I badly need to see, and who - if they don’t make the progress both they and I hope for - could wind up like Freeway leaving me back at square one, or do I try to find something else that’s similar to Freeway and Sparkle - because none of the many other programs mentioned in this long thread came close?

And if so, where do I go?

It’s decision time.

Has anyone found anything else along the same lines?


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I’ve been extremely happy with Sparkle, and was able to duplicate my freeway site with only a few insignificant changes. But with much less effort and many fewer problems. In much less time. It responds well to the five devices I’ve checked, again with little effort.

Initially I was bit concerned about having them not survive but I got the sense there were only a couple of folks in the company which makes them more apt to survive I think. It also does mean that their upgrades are perhaps slower than otherwise, but I think it’s a sound business decision on their part.

It sort of reminds of a guy who owned a recording studio I worked at once where everything be had was paid for by cash, never any credit at all. It meant he didn’t have all the bells and whistles that other studios might have had but he survived easily when things went a bit south. And he still won several grammys.

Currently we have version 2. I’m happy to use it and wait to see what versions 3 and 4 and 5 have to offer. It’s a great program with lots of very nice features and I’m happily waiting for the next version.

Freeway’s demise filled us all with a bit of fear of it happening again, but I’ve decided to use what works really well for me and will wait and see what happens.


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Yes, I think that’s probably my view too.

They responded very quickly to a major problem I had, found the bug at once, showed me a workaround, which worked perfectly, and will defeat the bug in the next update.

I may be an atypical customer with my reliance on lots of strange embeds, which is one of the areas where more work is needed in my opinion, but if you just want to build normal sites and can avoid the things which are still not quite as most would expect it’s very good indeed.


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