[Pro] Website File Organization?

As you know, Freeway Pro sets up several files and folders when you use one of its templates. As far as I can tell the folders are:

website name.freeway
[Media]
[Site Folder]

Is [Media] where I should place all of my original art (.ai, .jpg, .psd’s, etc.)? I’ve only designed one website using Freeway Pro and I’m trying to setup a good workflow. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Yes - for ease of organisation so all your originals are in the same place. By all means create subfolders within the media folder such as AIs, PDFs etc

Makes it much easier if transferring a job to another HD or client etc.

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Just so you realize, the Media folder is for you, and Freeway honestly doesn’t care at all what you do in there.

Freeway maintains the internal equivalent to a Mac OS Alias to each of the files you’ve used in your document. This is a very resilient scheme that includes the path to the file, the file’s unique ID, lots of other metadata that you can’t see or screw up. Basically, if you have your document open and you move a file from here to there (there being any random spot on your hard drive that you have write-access to) your document will notice the move and be able to find it again later.

If you pick up the entire Media folder and move it to an external disk (to save space) while Freeway is not running, the next time you publish that document in Freeway, it will ask you to locate all the missing files. Assuming you didn’t change the internal structure of Media during that move, if you find the first file it asks for, it will recover the rest and stop asking.

Now two more things to further explode your consciousness:

  1. All that I wrote about Media could be taken to mean any other folder on your Mac or accessible to it. Freeway doesn’t care where you store your files, and it provides that Media folder as a convenience to you, as Dave said.

  2. None of what I wrote refers to the Resources folder published by your document. Stay well out of this folder, especially don’t reference one file from within it in another part of the same document. The Resources folder, like the Site folder, is constantly being pruned, reshaped, re-filled with new copies of files.

Walter

On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:45 AM, DeltaDave wrote:

Yes - for ease of organisation so all your originals are in the same place. By all means create subfolders within the media folder such as AIs, PDFs etc

Makes it much easier if transferring a job to another HD or client etc.

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Excellent explanation. Thanks Walter.


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I’m curious to see how other Freeway Pro users have their Media folder organized. Please post the folders you setup in the Media folder when you are designing a new website.

Thanks!


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Personally I just create sub folders within the Media Folder for copies of Images, Docs (Word etc), Text (plain text), Scripts, Sound, Video etc. But these are copies of the originals which are added to the Media folder as required and in advance but before they are used in the FW doc.

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I know I’m not allowed in the Site/Resources folder(!) but its arrangement puzzles me. In my historic buildings site, some files are labelled Building1a, Building 1b etc which makes sense to me; others are named item 2a, item 2b, … item 2x, item 2-1, item 2-2, … . It seems that I then have to upload the whole Resources folder for every step as I build the site.

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If you name your items in the FW inspector (logically) then you wont get all these item1, item2 things- this is FW’s auto-naming process at work - if you dont give it a name then FW will.

It seems that I then have to upload the whole Resources folder for every step as I build the site.

One of the excellent things about FW is its built in FTP app - if you use it then this is not a concern as FW will only upload changed files.

Alternatively if you are using a decent FTP app like Transmit you can set it to sync between your web files and your mac removing the hassle.

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Thanks David. I’ll check out the inspector naming.

A to uploading, I have a Mac, and upload by dragging the files to my iDisk. I’m not sure what happens next!

Cheers,

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Freeway has you covered there, as well. If you switch the Upload dialog from FTP to File Copy, you can then select your iDisk site folder, and Freeway will do the exact same trick of mirroring your document to the folder (and cleaning up un-needed older files) just as it would over FTP. This way you won’t miss anything, and your remote folder will stay lean and clean.

Walter

On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Paul Scott wrote:

Thanks David. I’ll check out the inspector naming.

A to uploading, I have a Mac, and upload by dragging the files to my iDisk. I’m not sure what happens next!

Cheers,

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Hi,

My website is called Hoffkids…

I have a folder called Hoffkids Website.

Inside of it are the following folders:

*Audio Hoffkids
*Flash Hoffkids
*Pdf Hoffkids
*Pictures Hoffkids
*Videos Hoffkids
*Resources
*Site Folder
*Hoffkids.freeway
*Hoffkids.fwbackup

my question is, is this ok and will it work fine when I start to upload next week or do i NEED a folder called MEDIA? I saw many people have a folder called MEDIA and then have sub folders in there (like audio, flash, pdf, videoes, etc).

My main question is do I need the main media file? If not is my way harder , easier, etc?

thanks,

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On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Hoffman wrote:

my question is, is this ok and will it work fine when I start to upload next week or do i NEED a folder called MEDIA? I saw many people have a folder called MEDIA and then have sub folders in there (like audio, flash, pdf, videoes, etc).

It seriously doesn’t matter where you store your original files. When you upload, the contents of the Site Folder (only that folder) will be synchronized with the ‘site root’ folder on your server.

When Freeway publishes, it generates copies of your original files (often resized, resampled, Web-optimized copies) and places them in the Site Folder in precisely the same layout as they will be needed on the server.

Everything outside of that folder is optional. You could keep some of your files on CD-ROM, some on a USB stick, some in Dropbox, it seriously doesn’t matter – as long as those files are available to Freeway at the moment that you publish. It’s very flexible about where you store your files. It’s completely in charge of where it puts its copies of those files.

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Thanks for the File Copy hint Walter. It works, although the first time I tried it it seemed to copy everything. It’s a better way of doing it though.

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the first time I tried it it seemed to copy everything.

Because FW assumes that everything has to go because it has never done it before.

Now that it has done it once it should only upload changed files the next time - there are some exceptions.

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David … inspector naming.

I have now gone throughout the inspector panels for each of my resource files and given them a ‘proper’ name. However, when I publish the site, the Site/Resource folder continues to use the item** naming. This remains true if I quit out of Freeway and then open it again.

I guess it doesn’t matter, but I’d like to have it systematic!
Thanks,

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inspector panels for each of my resource files and given them a ‘proper’ name.

If you mean each item on your FW page (do Masters first) then that is the way to go.

Post a link to your site Paul and we can have a look.

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For DeltaDave: Inspector panels

Hi Dave. The URL of my site is

http://web.me.com/paulscott.info/historic-north-adelaide/

With thanks, Paul


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It looks fine to me.

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Let me get this straight Dave. I’m happy that the site works OK. But when I look at the Site/Resources folder, there are a great number of files of the form item**.gif (which I’m trying to get renamed in a sensible way!). Are you not seeing these?
Cheers,
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I can’t get to the Resources folder for your site - the MobileMe setup
bounces me out when I try to look there. (BTW, you are planning to
move everything somewhere else in the next few months, right? MobileMe
web hosting will disappear in about six months.)

As for the resource names, it matters no more to how your site functions
that the brand of your underwear matters when you’re wearing a business
suit. :slight_smile:

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