Why is backgroind showing through on graphic items?

I cant quite tell form your example, but If you mean the small box in the left of your sample is a graphic box, yes…that is my problem. The underlying layer is showing through.


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Mine is not that blue. in fact is it really not blue at all – more white. When I toggle it, it goes to a grayish tone.


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“Layers” does not show as an option in the Inspector.

On 11 Jan 2009, 10:31 pm, DeltaDave wrote:

I am with David O on this one.

The only way I can duplicate this effect is by putting non layered items on top of each other.

Have you double checked to make sure that all items are layers?

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What is a “CSS tickbox?” No such thing noted in any of the documentation.

On 11 Jan 2009, at 20:18, David Owen wrote:

Sorry Paul, that came from me - should be… CSS tickbox > inspector
palette >

My, this is getting complex :slight_smile:

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I don’t know if this is repeat info, but has anyone asked you what version of Freeway you are using?


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I am using Pro 5.

Note earlier that I for the first time I noticed that the CSS button on my page is not blue, but white. The other color when it is toggled is light gray.

Does that mean, for some reason, CSS is not on? I never turned it on or off. I assumed it was the default settingfor it to be one, and therefore assumed white meant “on.” Now I am not so sure.

As usual, the Freeway tutorials and user guide that comes with the disc do not mention this.

Could this be the problem?


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Its supposed to be blue when on, grey when off. What kind of Mac are you using?


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Note earlier that I for the first time I noticed that the CSS button on my page is not blue, but white. The other color when it is toggled is light gray.

Perhaps the “light grey” is actually blue. Your monitor may be set differently and shows the blue as light grey.


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I sent my entire site file to Freeway.
They seem willing to look at it. They are not seeming to understand the problem either.


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I don’t know why button does not look blue when it’s on, but it should.

So I would try redoing your boxes with the CSS button highlighted on one page, and again on another page without the CSS button highlighted. It does sound like a css layer issue.


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On 12 Jan 2009, at 02:19, chuckamuck wrote:

I don’t know why button does not look blue when it’s on, but it
should.

This depends on whether you have your system appearance set to
‘Graphite’ or ‘Blue’ in System Prefs, that’s all. Thus it’s a bit
dangerous to say ‘Click the blue button’, as many people may have
their System Preferences set in such a way that they don’t SEE a blue
button.

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I don’t want to add to any confusion on this but:

On Jan 12, 2009, at 3:04 AM, chuckamuck wrote:

Note earlier that I for the first time I noticed that the CSS
button on my page is not blue, but white. The other color when it
is toggled is light gray.

Perhaps the “light grey” is actually blue. Your monitor may be set
differently and shows the blue as light grey.

When the CSS is on the text below the ‘CSS’ button reads ‘CSS layout’,
when it is off the text reads ‘Table layout’, just in case there is
any confusion with the colour of the button.

On Jan 12, 2009, at 2:36 AM, SkipII wrote:

“Layers” does not show as an option in the Inspector.

You need to have an item on the page selected for the ‘Layer’ checkbox
to be visible, it shows when the first from the left icon in the
inspector is selected along with an item on the page.

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On 12 Jan 2009, at 01:30, SkipII wrote:

38 posts on this. I don;t know what I can do to explain it better.

It certainly sounds odd, almost as though your installation of Freeway
is faulty in some way. I just tried what you said, and it works fine
for me. I dragged in a JPEG to be what you call a ‘page area’ (not
sure about that terminology, or what you mean there) then I drew a
graphic item on top of it and typed some text in. On preview, the JPEG
appeared with the text on top, and the background of the graphic text
box was clear, showing the JPEG underneath, and NOT the site
background, which I’d set to a bright green.

I tried it with both ‘Layers’ and ‘Combine Images’ turned on and off,
and the results were the same.

When you say:

  1. WITH THE CSS BUTTON ON, I then created some page areas – one is
    black, one is a white and tan jpeg. These are graphic elements, not
    HTML and not layered.

… that seems a little odd. If you have the CSS button on, anything
you draw on the page is automatically a layer, unless you uncheck the
‘Layer’ checkbox in the Inspector after drawing it. So all of your
items are unlayered, yet you had the CSS button on. Why?

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On 12 Jan 2009, at 01:56, SkipII wrote:

Note earlier that I for the first time I noticed that the CSS button
on my page is not blue, but white. The other color when it is
toggled is light gray.

Does that mean, for some reason, CSS is not on? I never turned it
on or off. I assumed it was the default settingfor it to be one, and
therefore assumed white meant “on.” Now I am not so sure.

As usual, the Freeway tutorials and user guide that comes with the
disc do not mention this.

As I wrote earlier, the colour of the button depends on what you have
your System colour set to in System Preferences; ‘Graphite’ or ‘Blue’.
Sounds like you have yours set to ‘Graphite’, so the ‘blue button’
will not look blue to you. Better to follow Mike B’s advice:

When the CSS is on the text below the ‘CSS’ button reads ‘CSS
layout’, when it is off the text reads ‘Table layout’,

As a matter of interest, try this if you have the time:

  1. Make a new site
  2. Make the background colour green, using the Inspector, with nothing
    on the page selected.
  3. Drag in a JPEG, just any picture will do, but NOT the ones you used
    before.
  4. Draw a Graphic box on top of it and type some text in.
  5. Preview. You should see the picture, with some text on top, and the
    only background to the text box with the type in it should be the JPEG
    underneath.

I’ve just tried this, and it works as it should. It works whether the
items are layers or not.

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Sometime around 12/1/09 (at 08:59 +0000) Paul Bradforth said:

This depends on whether you have your system appearance set to
‘Graphite’ or ‘Blue’ in System Prefs, that’s all.

Is this button appearance tied to the system appearance setting? I
have just one word for this: DOH!

This needs to be consistent and clear. If it can be changed to ‘grey
or grey’ then it isn’t consistent OR clear.

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On 12 Jan 2009, at 11:46, Keith Martin wrote:

Is this button appearance tied to the system appearance setting? I
have just one word for this: DOH!

This needs to be consistent and clear. If it can be changed to ‘grey
or grey’ then it isn’t consistent OR clear.

Those were pretty much my thoughts on the matter too :slight_smile:

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Just as an experiment, change your graphic output to PNG for your
graphic boxes. Go to the inspector and under the third tab from left
set Type: PNG and Colours: Millions. It is a known cure for
transparency problems, usually with images.

Might work - might not, but it may help on other occasions, anyway.

Colin

On 12 Jan 2009, at 01:56, SkipII wrote:

I am using Pro 5.

Note earlier that I for the first time I noticed that the CSS button
on my page is not blue, but white. The other color when it is
toggled is light gray.

Does that mean, for some reason, CSS is not on? I never turned it
on or off. I assumed it was the default settingfor it to be one, and
therefore assumed white meant “on.” Now I am not so sure.

As usual, the Freeway tutorials and user guide that comes with the
disc do not mention this.

Could this be the problem?


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Just checked, Graphite system preferences does change the CSS button to grey. On = dark grey / off = lighter grey.

I’m at a loss why Skipll has the problem, I’m assuming it must be something with non-layered items.

On 12 Jan 2009, at 11:46, Keith Martin wrote:

Is this button appearance tied to the system appearance setting?

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Skipll,

Which example? 1st or 2nd ?

What colour border does Freeway show on the edge of your item that makes the hole. Does this item border show a Blue (non-layered) or a green (layered) border?

This would help us confirm if you are working in layers, or in non-layer tables.

This is working in non-layered (CSS off) with blue borders on items
http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk/examples/hole.png

This is working in layer (CSS on) with green borders on items

http://www.ineedwebhosting.co.uk/examples/hole2.png

Which do you see in your document?

On 12 Jan 2009, at 01:33, SkipII wrote:

I cant quite tell form your example, but If you mean the small box in the left of your sample is a graphic box, yes…that is my problem. The underlying layer is showing through.

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